Fixed games in College Good Stuf!

Moldoveanu · 04-01-06, 07:51 AM

I never doubted that there are fixed games in college!! 100% there are every single year! u just dont know who they are!!

but i have a pretty good idea who they were this season!!

like in earlier post says u dont have to cover the spread by 14 pts all u have to do is win the game by less then 14 pts and u got 10K $$$$ in ur pockets!

We're about due for a major game-fixing scandal in college basketball.

This is more than a prediction, it's a likelihood based on the sport's own sordid law of averages. There have been seven major game-fixing scandals in the past 56 years, or one every eight years.

Eleven years ago Dewey Williams was recruited by a Northwestern teammate to shave points. (Getty Images)
The last such occurrence was at Northwestern 11 years ago.

Make that, overdue for a game-fixing scandal.

Enjoy your Final Four, folks.

Michael Franzese isn't about to calm our fears. In fact, they help business. The former Columbo crime family member makes part of his living as a gambling consultant to the NCAA.

"I do have my suspicions when I watch a game," Franzese said. "I'll look at a (betting) line and put two and two together if I'm watching a player. I always watch with a half-suspicious eye."

Franzese is a trained professional in the matter. He fixed games in his former life as a mobster. Players had no choice when they got behind on gambling debts. The NCAA knows that. It's sort of like employing a former safe cracker to see how secure your bank is.

According to mounting anecdotal evidence, NCAA basketball is surprisingly susceptible to funny stuff.

According to a 2003 NCAA survey, 1.3 percent of Division I players admitted taking money from a gambler to play poorly. In Sports Illustrated last week, a Wharton School of Business economist used his mathematical formula to suggest that 500 games over the past 16 seasons involved point shaving.

Listen to him. Franzese makes it sound easy. What's scary is his description of the fixing method seems almost too detailed to be contrived.

"You got a guard, he's 6-2, he's in his senior year, he's on his way out of school," Franzese said. "He's not going to the pros in all likelihood. (The fixer) will say, 'Listen you don't have to be broke, your team is favored by 14 tonight.

"Win by six, win by seven, don't cover the spread. I'll put 10 grand in your pocket. You do that 10 times you've got $100,000 tax free when you leave school."

thats really wow!

"When they lose money they have to find a way to pay it back," he said. "I told (athletes), you better be careful, you don't want to run into a guy like me."

Another example: The advent of online gambling has increased the NCAA's fears. Earlier this year, the president of Lehigh's sophomore class robbed a bank in order to pay off online gambling debts.

In 2003, a Wisconsin freshman from Taiwan was charged with the triple murder of three roommates. The murders were believed to stem from a dispute over gambling debts. The student then hanged himself in his prison cell in January 2005.

If only the problem were just game fixing.
"At that age you don't know your limits," Franzese said. "I tell them, 'You guys don't need this, it's not a harmless pastime.'

"One thing can lead to another."

And, remember, we're overdue.

Try to enjoy your Final Four, folks.

Tommy · 04-01-06, 10:24 AM

Yeah you never know what's going to happen sometimes. There are probably fixed games but I don't think there are alot of them.

Stuff like this happens all the time in this world, be it gambling or a ton of other scenerios.

Moldoveanu · 04-01-06, 11:00 AM

yes i know!! even in soccer too!!

especially college games! because they are college and are young boys!!

so they might get something going and say! come on no1 is gona know about

this but us! lets win the game!! if they are huge favored!!

like 15 pts or more or even 10 pts or more!!

or play good defense and run down the clock or play good offense!!

and other people will bet 5K on Over 5K on the dogs to cover!

and like that you have 5 6 people betting 5K 10K and u have ! 25-50K

and u just divide amont the players! and everyone gets! couple of thousands!

and thats how they get money!

QuickNick · 04-01-06, 08:28 PM

I think it happens more than people think. You have too many college kids gambling on sports and getting in debt, I know if I had a friend that was losing his ass and owed money to bookies and they said fix a few games and you are off the hook and my friend came to me and said, when you are favored by 15 or more points I need you to win by less than the 15 and you can help me get out of debt. I WOULD DO IT TO HELP MY FRIEND!!! NO QUESTIONS ASKED, BUT, I WOULD TELL HIM THIS IS IT. YOU GET INTO TROUBLE AGAIN AND YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN.

Also, the way the guy explained about a senior not going to go pro and can put 100,000.00 his pocket to start life is most probably going to do it. HE DOES NOT CARE WHO IS GOING TO LOSE MONEY ON THE GAMES. I have always said it where ever you have gambling for big money you are going to have cheating PERIOD!!!!

shit look at the Florida game that just got over the total was 132.5 and it finished at 131 and florida did not even try and score in the last 30 seconds. Now florida had kids in the game that did not get to take a shot at scoring so why not try and make a basket?????? there would be no way they could lose and the kid held the ball. that to me is very suspecious, I know if I sat the bench and got in the game at the end I would want to take a shot and try to score even if it was with 5 seconds left!!!

Moldoveanu · 04-01-06, 10:29 PM

yes! i agree with u nick 100% there are fixing games 100%

i just thought of it!! how did Princeton was able to score like 10 pts in a half?

or like 25 pts in all the game and 30 pts in all the game are u kidding!!

the total was set over 100 pts and all they would do is just take the clock

shoot bad and play some defense and even though they would come 10 20 pts they would love that!!

and the teams that have Totals at 155 160 you know what u have to do!

play a normal game a 70 70 game would be ok! but not run up and down like crazy!!

There are 100% fixing games going on! and i believe every single team has probably fixed a game this season!!

and i agree with u nick on the The total!!

come on this is the Final Four u got to take that ball and score!!
wtf are udoing up there holding the ball!! u got to try and score this is a an opportunity of a life time for u to score because in the finals u probably wont come in ! jesus!! i cant believe that was so close!!

04-01-06, 07:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
Moldoveanu SCI Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 829	Fixed games in College Good Stuf! I never doubted that there are fixed games in college!! 100% there are every single year! u just dont know who they are!! but i have a pretty good idea who they were this season!! like in earlier post says u dont have to cover the spread by 14 pts all u have to do is win the game by less then 14 pts and u got 10K $$$$ in ur pockets! We're about due for a major game-fixing scandal in college basketball. This is more than a prediction, it's a likelihood based on the sport's own sordid law of averages. There have been seven major game-fixing scandals in the past 56 years, or one every eight years. Eleven years ago Dewey Williams was recruited by a Northwestern teammate to shave points. (Getty Images) The last such occurrence was at Northwestern 11 years ago. Make that, overdue for a game-fixing scandal. Enjoy your Final Four, folks. Michael Franzese isn't about to calm our fears. In fact, they help business. The former Columbo crime family member makes part of his living as a gambling consultant to the NCAA. "I do have my suspicions when I watch a game," Franzese said. "I'll look at a (betting) line and put two and two together if I'm watching a player. I always watch with a half-suspicious eye." Franzese is a trained professional in the matter. He fixed games in his former life as a mobster. Players had no choice when they got behind on gambling debts. The NCAA knows that. It's sort of like employing a former safe cracker to see how secure your bank is. According to mounting anecdotal evidence, NCAA basketball is surprisingly susceptible to funny stuff. According to a 2003 NCAA survey, 1.3 percent of Division I players admitted taking money from a gambler to play poorly. In Sports Illustrated last week, a Wharton School of Business economist used his mathematical formula to suggest that 500 games over the past 16 seasons involved point shaving. Listen to him. Franzese makes it sound easy. What's scary is his description of the fixing method seems almost too detailed to be contrived. "You got a guard, he's 6-2, he's in his senior year, he's on his way out of school," Franzese said. "He's not going to the pros in all likelihood. (The fixer) will say, 'Listen you don't have to be broke, your team is favored by 14 tonight. "Win by six, win by seven, don't cover the spread. I'll put 10 grand in your pocket. You do that 10 times you've got $100,000 tax free when you leave school." thats really wow! "When they lose money they have to find a way to pay it back," he said. "I told (athletes), you better be careful, you don't want to run into a guy like me." Another example: The advent of online gambling has increased the NCAA's fears. Earlier this year, the president of Lehigh's sophomore class robbed a bank in order to pay off online gambling debts. In 2003, a Wisconsin freshman from Taiwan was charged with the triple murder of three roommates. The murders were believed to stem from a dispute over gambling debts. The student then hanged himself in his prison cell in January 2005. If only the problem were just game fixing. "At that age you don't know your limits," Franzese said. "I tell them, 'You guys don't need this, it's not a harmless pastime.' "One thing can lead to another." And, remember, we're overdue. Try to enjoy your Final Four, folks.
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04-01-06, 10:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	Yeah you never know what's going to happen sometimes. There are probably fixed games but I don't think there are alot of them. Stuff like this happens all the time in this world, be it gambling or a ton of other scenerios.
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Moldoveanu SCI Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 829	yes i know!! even in soccer too!! especially college games! because they are college and are young boys!! so they might get something going and say! come on no1 is gona know about this but us! lets win the game!! if they are huge favored!! like 15 pts or more or even 10 pts or more!! or play good defense and run down the clock or play good offense!! and other people will bet 5K on Over 5K on the dogs to cover! and like that you have 5 6 people betting 5K 10K and u have ! 25-50K and u just divide amont the players! and everyone gets! couple of thousands! and thats how they get money!
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04-01-06, 08:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
QuickNick SCI Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 9,637	I think it happens more than people think. You have too many college kids gambling on sports and getting in debt, I know if I had a friend that was losing his ass and owed money to bookies and they said fix a few games and you are off the hook and my friend came to me and said, when you are favored by 15 or more points I need you to win by less than the 15 and you can help me get out of debt. I WOULD DO IT TO HELP MY FRIEND!!! NO QUESTIONS ASKED, BUT, I WOULD TELL HIM THIS IS IT. YOU GET INTO TROUBLE AGAIN AND YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. Also, the way the guy explained about a senior not going to go pro and can put 100,000.00 his pocket to start life is most probably going to do it. HE DOES NOT CARE WHO IS GOING TO LOSE MONEY ON THE GAMES. I have always said it where ever you have gambling for big money you are going to have cheating PERIOD!!!! shit look at the Florida game that just got over the total was 132.5 and it finished at 131 and florida did not even try and score in the last 30 seconds. Now florida had kids in the game that did not get to take a shot at scoring so why not try and make a basket?????? there would be no way they could lose and the kid held the ball. that to me is very suspecious, I know if I sat the bench and got in the game at the end I would want to take a shot and try to score even if it was with 5 seconds left!!! __________________ Nick
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Moldoveanu SCI Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 829	yes! i agree with u nick 100% there are fixing games 100% i just thought of it!! how did Princeton was able to score like 10 pts in a half? or like 25 pts in all the game and 30 pts in all the game are u kidding!! the total was set over 100 pts and all they would do is just take the clock shoot bad and play some defense and even though they would come 10 20 pts they would love that!! and the teams that have Totals at 155 160 you know what u have to do! play a normal game a 70 70 game would be ok! but not run up and down like crazy!! There are 100% fixing games going on! and i believe every single team has probably fixed a game this season!! and i agree with u nick on the The total!! come on this is the Final Four u got to take that ball and score!! wtf are udoing up there holding the ball!! u got to try and score this is a an opportunity of a life time for u to score because in the finals u probably wont come in ! jesus!! i cant believe that was so close!!
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