[ACEACE]

BIG....CAN YOU GET SOMETHING LIKE THIS....AT THIS PLACE .....THEY WANT MONEY TO TAB INTO THIS.....IF YOU CANT I MY TRY IT MYSELF FOR A MO...TO SEE IF IT ANY GOOD

http://www.sportsinsights.com/detail...id=3&v_nss=951


AFTER YOU READ THIS YOU CAN DELETE THIS

[Tommy]

I dont understand what exactly you have to pay for. I saw the example and if thats what you would pay for all the games? I dont think it tells you much. The percentages of action is easy to calculate by watching the line movement. Plus I dont trust what they have. If you look at the sample it almost like its scewed in some way or another. I think what they have is just a way to get people to go through them to a sportsbook.

I will be looking around and trying to get some good info somehwere, but if I can't, I will most definitely be a watchdog with at least 5 online sportsbooks lines by getting the opening lines from each and posting the movement by the hour at the minumum till it closes. Basically the same as they have. I always have at least 5 windows open on my browser, so why not make it another 5

You can defintely tell where the money is going and has gone between the opening and closing lines. You know that the books are trying to get equal action/money on both sides, etc. But how much money and wheres the big money going? I would most def pay for something that shows me that but for what that place is making you pay for is uselss to me if I can just moniter it myself, and know that it is correct.

[Tommy]

I just signed up at that place and they have 4 steps to register and all the steps has a fu*king sales pitch lol. Good business strategy, but Im no dummy The more they say there honest, the more Speculation I have.

[ACEACE]

THIS IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME......

Posted - 07/17/2005 : 3:27:49 PM
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Si has money line % from 8 different books, how much more of a world punting snapshot do you need?

I prefer to watch 2 of those 8 books, no particular reason it is just what I become accustomed to doing.




ACE-ACE


18 Posts
Posted - 07/17/2005 : 3:58:12 PM
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MONEYLINE% MONEY AND TEAM(A) FAV BY 7 POINT MONEY... IS NIGHT AND DAY..

IF YOU DONT PLAY THE MONEY LINE AND ONLY PLAY POINTS WHAT GOOD IS IT....MONEYLINE WILL SHOW DIFFERENT % VS PLAYING POINTS.....

I CAN SEE HOW IT COULD HELP

BUT

IN THE "MAC GAMES"....IT'S ABOUT THE POINTS.....FOR ME.....USE THE MONEYLINE% WILL GIVE ME A FALSE READING ON THE GAME.....

LETS SAY YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A FIX GAME IN THE MAC....YOU ARE LOOKING FOR LATE MONEY COMING IN....MOST GAMBLER BET THE POINT SPREAD....HOW WILL IT HELP IF THE TOTAL BETS ON POINT SPREAD = TO 90% IN A BOOK.....AND ONLY 10% OF THE MONEY THAT COMES IN IS MONEYLINE,MONEY....

DO I HAVE THIS RIGHT?


go volmania


USA
560 Posts
Posted - 07/17/2005 : 4:11:27 PM
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Ace, you are correct. Thats' why I use SI. Last year in baskets there were a handful of us that had records well over 60%. We had one guy who was a documented 32-4(2 of those losses were pushes for me).

We found a particular trend on SI where if the majority of joe public was team A and the line did not move or moved Kontra we play against the public.

I think you and I are talking about the same type plays, but we both have different methods of gathering out data, but I do think we are looking at the same stuff. I need to keep it simple thats another reason I prefer SI.

If your going to try SI, you need to not only watch the Money%, but you also need to watch line movement.

BUT, if your looking for "fixes" then I highly suggest you look into the graphs, study them and thier movement you will soon see a world of punting that few even know exist.

I hope everyone at SI is looking at the graphs, there a world of information hidden inside those graphs.


BIG...WE DONT WANT MONEYLINE %

MAN.....IF YOU CAN GET POINT SPREAD MONEY%

THE FOOD AND BEER IS ON ME....

[Tommy]

If your going to try SI, you need to not only watch the Money%, but you also need to watch line movement.

If you can't tell the % by the line movement itself, then its time to find another way to cap. Its commom sense, people try to make it more difficult and stretched out more than it has to be.

BUT, if your looking for "fixes" then I highly suggest you look into the graphs, study them and thier movement you will soon see a world of punting that few even know exist.

There it goes again, stretching it out, its just the line movement in a graph style LOL

I hope everyone at SI is looking at the graphs, there a world of information hidden inside those graphs.

LOL theres nothing hidden, it is the same as the % in a fun graph


I will be monitering the lines from opening till closing myself from 5 sportsbooks and I will post them all here. Money lines, Spreads, and OU!!!!




I will be monitering

[Tommy]

For the visual point of view, it looks like alot, but its basically all the same thing in different forms. Its like me having this forum in 5 different colors, its all the same forum though

I think what they have to offer is good if you dont want to moniter it yourself, but its easy and I will do it, including the spread moneyline and spread movement itself. I will post it here from 5 maybe more online sportsbooks.

[Tommy]

Now we have to find a way to see which sides the big dump offs are going

Now that is something I would pay good money to see

[ACEACE]

I feel the same way....its alot of thing....but its all the same....

I'm alway checking thing out....

THANK I KNEW YOU WOULD KNOW....

[Tommy]

Thanks for pointing me to that site to see what they got Ace. Im always looking myself, but theres really nothing concrete out there that i can find. I think the best way to do it is to moniter that kind of thing yourself. Im really into shopping a line and getting the best value, but Im also interested to see the flow of the lines. Of course if a line is heavily moved, then the latter is getting the action. Most books online are square so you can get a good indication between opening and closing.

[Tommy]

I wish more people would get involved in this section, The more poeple contributing, the more info and also to discuss each others points of views and come to a good conlusion.

[Tommy]

If anyone knows of people who are serious and would want to contribute, by all means send them over. The more the merrier.

Thanks Ace for suggesting this section.

[TheRook]

Originally Posted by ACEACE

BIG....CAN YOU GET SOMETHING LIKE THIS....AT THIS PLACE .....THEY WANT MONEY TO TAB INTO THIS.....IF YOU CANT I MY TRY IT MYSELF FOR A MO...TO SEE IF IT ANY GOOD

http://www.sportsinsights.com/detail...id=3&v_nss=951


AFTER YOU READ THIS YOU CAN DELETE THIS

It's all good...but where are they getting those numbers from? I can go to betjamica, bodog and some other sites and see totally different numbers for the same games.

I'm very skeptical of those types of sites.

If I may ask, what are you trying to get out of it?

Rook

[Tommy]

Yeah every book has different numbers. They say they are getting them from 5 different books and averaging it out or something. I agree Rook, I dont take much consideration in something like this unless I know its credible. I can pretty much just tell the % by watching the line itself. Alot of Books look at others and Vegas to adjust their own lines. I know there current line thing is right but thats about all I know.

[ACEACE]

I DONT CARE TO LOOK AT THE NFL ONE...JUST CBB AND CFB...LOOKING FOR LAST HOUR LINE MOVEMENT TELL ALOT IF ITS IN THE "MAC GAMES.
THE MORE WE CAN SEE THE EASYER TO PICK

I STILL THINK THAT BETWEEN MY DET BOOK AND THE CHI ONE..PLUS JFS NY FAMILY BOOK....THAT WILL BE ALL WE NEED....NOW YOU ADD A FEW MORE AND THEY ALL TELL YOU THE SAME THING.....WELL DO I HAVE TO SAID MORE....

I SAW MIA OF OHIO MONEY WAS AT 50-50.... TWO HOUR BEFORE THE GAME....THAN IT WHEN 80-20 IN THE LAST TWO HOUR....

I WAS TOLD THE NEXT DAY BY A BOOKIE IN GR,MI BY E-MAIL THAT HE WAS LAYING OFF ACTION ON THAT GAME....

IT WON AND I ALSO WON....

THAT WHY WE NEED TO SEE ALL WE CAN...

[Tommy]

I will definetely be posting the last hour line movements from some different sources if I cant get something better before then.

[ACEACE]

BIG OR JIMFIESTSUX.....MY PC WHEN DOWN FOR TWO DAY I LOST SOME OF MY E-MAILING LIST

I NEED JIM E-MAIL HE GOT MY....YOU TO BIG....

IF YOU CAN....THANKS

[Tommy]

You got some mail Ace