[Tommy]

Originally Posted by JRoz

Not yet Im gonna watch the line and see how it changes towards game time

Thats the goal here, it is to get as much info as we can/ Reasonings why one would like a side or a total. Dgreements and reasonings why. Line moves(esp) last hour etc etc and come to a conclusion by at least 5 minutes before gametime that everyone agrees with. The info that comes the hour before game time is essential Info all throughout the week/Day till gametime is good stuff and it would likely lead to come up with a good conclusion for everyone

[ACEACE]

Originally Posted by naught33

I'm glad you posted that about the weather, I was just going to do that myself....if rain/thunderstorms are in the area it could be a very sloppy game and probably go under...add to that both teams will be playing young qbs for the most part without much experience, which should give the defense an advantage

MOST OF THE KEY PLAYERS THAT ARE OUT IS ON THE DEFENSE SIDE....

THE ? IS WILL THE YOUNG QB SCORE MORE WITH NO DEFENSE TO STOP THEM IN THE RAIN?

[naught33]

I think in the nasty weather they might try to run the ball more, which will speed up the game, chew up the clock, and thus should keep it under the total...usually early in the preseason, defenses are ahead of the offenses, and with both teams playing a lot of young qbs i dont see them taking too many chances.

[Tommy]

Back to -105 all on Pinnacle

[ACEACE]

ANYONE LIKING THE UNDER THINK ABOUT THIS:

The Pack has a ton of defenders out, db's, lb's and dl's. They are scrounging anybody just to get some bodies to play tonight. Both starting rb's are sitters, and backups only get so many carries. The reps are required for the backup QB's to get their timing with receivers/ends/backs during game conditions. I look for Rivers and Cal kid (hopefully not another Boller) to pass often, and as many incompletions as they throw, a lot of stopped clock. Pack shown severe disinterest in this spot, scoring nothing. But again, you could see a lot of scoring in the rain. Rain with no wind is really bad for defenders. And there is a high probability of those conditions. I am sure you will have it all figured out by gametime Ace.

I KNOW WHAT I'M BETTING IN THIS GAME....SOMETHING HAS TO BE SAID TO CHANGE MY MIND

IN THE LAST 1/2 HOUR BEFORE THE GAME WE WILL ALL VOTE AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE LEARN FROM ALL THIS...
IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BET THE GAME ITS OK ...YOUR VOTE COUNTS ALSO....

[JRoz]

All I have to say is that almost everywhere I look every one is on the over but the line has not changed within the past few days.

[Tommy]

Chargers WR Keenan McCardell and WR Eric Parker will not play much tonight, if at all. What will be seen is WR Reche Caldwell's surgically repaired knee and rookie WR Vincent Jackson's magnificent hands. Also, WR Willie Quinnie, WR Ruvell Martin and WR Carl Morris will try to be seen, as much by other teams that might be watching as by the receiver-rich Chargers. The Chargers will keep seven or eight receivers (five or six on the active roster and two or three on the practice squad). While many of the 11 receivers in camp have stood out in practice, HC Marty Schottenheimer expects to leave Lambeau "with a little better sense of who is going to be able to stand up to the bright lights."

[Tommy]

reports Chargers QB Philip Rivers rarely took snaps with the first team last season, and even his two quarters of action in the regular-season finale felt to him to lack significance. But he has spent the past two weeks taking turns with the starters and the past six months immersed in the offense. He will be the Chargers' featured quarterback tonight, taking over in the second quarter when QB Drew Brees retires for the night, and likely playing through the third quarter. "I'm ready," Rivers said. " ..... I'm going in confident in what we're doing."

[Tommy]

The lines haven't moved for a while now. I think the last hour will be the telling tale. We will see, but right now I am on GB if the line jumps up to +3.5 and on SD if the line moves down to 2.5 3 is a no play as it stands now for me. I dont like betting preseason but if any one of those happen I will bite. I will also see how the weather is before gametime to make a decision on if I play the total unless someone really has some good stuff to sway me before gametime. Im not an action bettor and if I dont like the 1 game thats on I will not bet it. This game, MNF, and even the Superbowl is just another bet for me the way I look at it. A winner is a winner

[ACEACE]

BIG here something to think about ....
ONLY 45 GAMES OUT OF 256 GAMES LAST YEAR "THE POINTS MATTER"

THAT ONLY 17% OF THE GAMES.....I ALWAY SAY BET THE TEAM NOT THE POINTS

[Tommy]

Im not betting the points Ace

[naught33]

yeah most of the time the team that wins the game will cover the spread so just look for the team you expect to win the game

[ACEACE]

Originally Posted by JRoz

All I have to say is that almost everywhere I look every one is on the over but the line has not changed within the past few days.

DO YOU HAVE A LOCAL BOOK
NO ACTION NO LINEMOVEMENT

THE LINE DID MOVE TO 38 WHEN IT 1ST CAME OUT IT WAS 36 1/2

YOU GOT A GOOD POINT THEIR....UPDATE ON MY LOCAL BOOK

62% OF THE MONEY IS ON SD VS 10 AM IT WAS 56%

OVER 65% OF THE MONEY

NOT BETS ...BUT MONEY

[Tommy]

No, Im not trying to wait to buy the extra hook on each side, Its the process of the line movement throughout the day and the last hour to see which team is getting the late action.

[Tommy]

We need more people to participate which I hope that will be the case when the start of the Reg season hits

This is a very good start IMO though. I think its a great concept and I think it will work out like gold if there is enough interest

[JRoz]

ACE I'm just going by pinnacles lines that have been at 37.5 for the past 2 days. And by just looking at the forums most people are picking the over.

[ACEACE]

Originally Posted by big123

We need more people to participate which I hope that will be the case when the start of the Reg season hits

This is a very good start IMO though. I think its a great concept and I think it will work out like gold if there is enough interest

A VERY GOOD START.....I LIKE WHAT I SEE...JUST NEED MORE PLAYERS

THE EXPERIMENTAL THREAD AT THE OTHER SITE WAS NICE WITH MORE PLAYERS...BUT...ALL THEY WANTED WAS MY PICK.....NOT WHAT GETS THE PICK.....BIG .....HAVE YOU SEEN IT OVER THEIR?

THIS IS 100% THE PLACE TO DO THIS.....YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB TODAY....


VOTING STARTS IN THE LAST HOUR 7PM EST

[ACEACE]

Originally Posted by JRoz

ACE I'm just going by pinnacles lines that have been at 37.5 for the past 2 days. And by just looking at the forums most people are picking the over.

GOD I WANT TO BET THE UNDER....

RAIN....

HALF THE TEAM WILL NOT BE THEIR.....

FAVRE ONLY PLAYING FOR FEW PLAYS

OVER 6O% OF THE PLAYERS ON OVER....AND THE LINE DID MOVE MUCH...

EVERY THING IS TELL ME TO BET IT...

RIGHT NOW I'M THINK ABOUT A TEASERS WITH A UNDER 44

[Tommy]

ok voting in the last hour it is

Yeah I saw the thread over there. A few people, but yeah not much detail at all, it was basically thier opinions in a peanut shell and a few that just wanted to know who you liked lol. Not really anything special like I hope to have right here. I wish I already had 10 years instead of 6 months under the belt with this forum lol. I think their would be a few more involved with this if that was the case. I think its doing pretty good so far and shouldnt be too long before, with the right moves, take this site to a high level and have a superior SCI and Insider Power

I am leaning towards the under, but would like to see what the weather is looking like at game time

[Tommy]

I know this shouldnt be done here but where is JimFiestSux and Roxy at? I thought they wanted to be a part in this, there help and discussions would be great.