DOC's TUESDAY NIGHT WINNER INSIDE! NEW WEEK starts tonite! LETS ALL CASH TONITE!!

JimFiestSux · 09-27-05, 01:13 PM

Toledo travels to Fresno State and as a Road dog Toledo is 7-12-2 away ATS since 1997. On the other hand Fresno State is just 1-5 ATS the week before a bye week which is next week. Look for their trend to continue as Toledo's QB can without a doubt keep this game within the # and possibly pull the upset. DOC called my godfather last night late and bet TOLEDO + the points but hes also playing the money line on this one too.

DOC'S PLAY:: TOLEDO +12 1/2 22,000/20,000

I see Pinnacle has TOLEDO +380 as a money line. I bet them a little on the money line, but here is play is with the points but don't be afraid to bet the $$$ line alittle too. DOC'S last team Ul Monroe cashed on the money line so why can't this one?? He says the oddsmaker have a wrong line here way too high. Good luck everyone as we begin a nEW week . Lets get off on the right foot!! To all the faders you had a good last 2 games and you went 4-10 for the week as a fader,lol, watch out this week! TO ALL MY FADERS

naught33 · 09-27-05, 01:29 PM

Thx for the early heads up on the play...gradkowski for toledo is no joke, one of the more underrated qbs in the country IMO....fresno should be smarting after blowing that game to oregon, but the line looks high IMO also. Toledo should be able to cover this and if DOC is on it im on it as well...thanks again JFS and DOC

MGK222 · 09-27-05, 01:42 PM

Has anyone heard of the TOLEDO qb not being 100%.Thought I saw somewhere that he has a hurt shoulder and was having a hard time making strong throws last week.I will try to find that thread.Any inside info would be cool......Thanx..

Dominic10464 · 09-27-05, 01:49 PM

Here is the status of Gradkowsk from COVERS.com:

Ques Tues - Undisclosed
He returned to practice on Saturday for light drills. Medical staff would not comment on his injury. He will be a game time decision.

The line has moved from 7.5 to 12.5.

JimFiestSux · 09-27-05, 01:54 PM

lol, Maybe DOC knows more than we think,lol. And the game time decision will be in Toledos favor. Gradkowski @ 75% will still give them fits. He's played hurt before.

sdf · 09-27-05, 01:59 PM

09/27 3:43am QB Bruce Gradkowski Undisclosed is "?".
The Blade reports- The status of Gradkowski, whose practice time the past week was limited because of an undisclosed injury, or injuries, will be a game-time decision, according to UT coach Tom Amstutz. If he plays, the teams will have more mirror images in offenses and in the match-up between Gradkowski and Fresno senior Paul Pinegar.

JimFiestSux · 09-27-05, 02:40 PM

With this being a game time decision, this line shows that books are confident that Gradkowski won'y play but one never knows. If his practices were limited it shows that he will give it a go I believe. Hurt or not 12 1/2 is a big nut to crack here.

sdf · 09-27-05, 02:45 PM

i think the line takes into account Boise's thrashing of BGreen.

If Boise = Fresno, and BGreen = Toledo, then Fresno should beat the crap out of Toledo.
Just like Boise did to BGreen last week.

MGK222 · 09-27-05, 02:53 PM

Thanx for the info.I will be gone most of the day so keep up the good work....If doc likes the play I am sure he knows about the injury.So that is good enough for me..

JimFiestSux · 09-27-05, 03:31 PM

sdf,

After being in the business for 36 years,lol, if the stats are the way the game goes there wouldn't be bookmakimg,lol. Every game would go according. Like the Giants should've kicked san Diego's ass and the Saints should've beat the Vikings,lol, according to stats! BUT remember one thing Toledo is no slouch and was picked to go 9-1 or 8-2 in Conference play but that doesn't come into play here but they are a good team. Any QB with a 70% completion ratio 2 years in a row has to be considered a play hurt or not! Throw out your theory of who beat who in this game. Toledo keeps it close and steals a win . GOOD LUCK ON YOUR PLAY!!

cruisin · 09-27-05, 03:49 PM

The person to ask is ACE---maybe he can give us some insight or get some info.

sdf · 09-27-05, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimFiestSux

sdf,

After being in the business for 36 years,lol, if the stats are the way the game goes there wouldn't be bookmakimg,lol. Every game would go according. Like the Giants should've kicked san Diego's ass and the Saints should've beat the Vikings,lol, according to stats! BUT remember one thing Toledo is no slouch and was picked to go 9-1 or 8-2 in Conference play but that doesn't come into play here but they are a good team. Any QB with a 70% completion ratio 2 years in a row has to be considered a play hurt or not! Throw out your theory of who beat who in this game. Toledo keeps it close and steals a win . GOOD LUCK ON YOUR PLAY!!

i'm not saying that's what WILL happen (fresno beating the crap out of toledo).
i'm saying that's why the line is set the way it is. it is my opinion that the bookmakers are taking into account the boise/bgreen game when putting up this line....because of what the PUBLIC thinks....that boise/bgreen game has to be fresh in the public's minds because i saw a lot of people on bgreen.

6 days later we have WAC vs MAC again....and in order to even out the money, they set a high line in order to not take all fresno $$$.

but wtf do i know?

gl guys

Tommy · 09-27-05, 08:16 PM

Good info guys

Lets hit this one easy tonight

kcdutton · 09-27-05, 08:48 PM

I got Toledo +14 -107 and ML +400 on this one! Go Toledo!

Good Luck All!

KCD

kcdutton · 09-27-05, 09:06 PM

Looks lik 1st stringer might be out for Toledo tonight. They might have to start a redshirt freshman.

http://www.toledofreepress.com/?id=1212

KCD

Hoping for a big time trap game here.

maniac_19_bg · 09-27-05, 09:14 PM

Good info KCD! However, this was written yesterday!!
I also sense a trap here.

kcdutton · 09-27-05, 09:22 PM

With all the line movement everyone is trying to jump on Fresno before it goes even higher, which the books are loving. If #1 QB cant go they might have to resort to a more ball controlled offense with short passes. If this turns into a lower scoring afair the +14 looks real good. This is all just my opinion but I really like the points with this one whether he plays or not.

Good Luck All

KCD

Happy928 · 09-27-05, 09:25 PM

yea, this game's too iffy....

i think i'll wait til the 2nd half

kcdutton · 09-27-05, 09:50 PM

Some of the books falling back down to 13.5
I'm feeling real good about getting in at +14
I just think to many people are jumping on FSU
Go Toledo!!

KCD

I also put a good amount on the U63
I think the freshman will start and they are going
to try and run a lot.

mrpotter · 09-27-05, 11:38 PM

JFS, Ace-Ace is saying that Gradkowski is definitely not playing and that we shouldn't believe anything to the contrary.

09-27-05, 01:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
JimFiestSux Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 276	DOC's TUESDAY NIGHT WINNER INSIDE! NEW WEEK starts tonite! LETS ALL CASH TONITE!! Toledo travels to Fresno State and as a Road dog Toledo is 7-12-2 away ATS since 1997. On the other hand Fresno State is just 1-5 ATS the week before a bye week which is next week. Look for their trend to continue as Toledo's QB can without a doubt keep this game within the # and possibly pull the upset. DOC called my godfather last night late and bet TOLEDO + the points but hes also playing the money line on this one too. DOC'S PLAY:: TOLEDO +12 1/2 22,000/20,000 I see Pinnacle has TOLEDO +380 as a money line. I bet them a little on the money line, but here is play is with the points but don't be afraid to bet the $$$ line alittle too. DOC'S last team Ul Monroe cashed on the money line so why can't this one?? He says the oddsmaker have a wrong line here way too high. Good luck everyone as we begin a nEW week . Lets get off on the right foot!! To all the faders you had a good last 2 games and you went 4-10 for the week as a fader,lol, watch out this week! TO ALL MY FADERS
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09-27-05, 01:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
naught33 SCI Forum Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scarsdale, NY Posts: 13,666	Thx for the early heads up on the play...gradkowski for toledo is no joke, one of the more underrated qbs in the country IMO....fresno should be smarting after blowing that game to oregon, but the line looks high IMO also. Toledo should be able to cover this and if DOC is on it im on it as well...thanks again JFS and DOC __________________ -naught33 "You miss 100% of all the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky "No one, and I mean no one, comes into our house and pushes us around"-coach from the movie Rudy
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MGK222 SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 20	Has anyone heard of the TOLEDO qb not being 100%.Thought I saw somewhere that he has a hurt shoulder and was having a hard time making strong throws last week.I will try to find that thread.Any inside info would be cool......Thanx..
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Dominic10464 SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5	Here is the status of Gradkowsk from COVERS.com: Ques Tues - Undisclosed He returned to practice on Saturday for light drills. Medical staff would not comment on his injury. He will be a game time decision. The line has moved from 7.5 to 12.5.
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09-27-05, 01:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
JimFiestSux Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 276	lol, Maybe DOC knows more than we think,lol. And the game time decision will be in Toledos favor. Gradkowski @ 75% will still give them fits. He's played hurt before.
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sdf SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 17	09/27 3:43am QB Bruce Gradkowski Undisclosed is "?". The Blade reports- The status of Gradkowski, whose practice time the past week was limited because of an undisclosed injury, or injuries, will be a game-time decision, according to UT coach Tom Amstutz. If he plays, the teams will have more mirror images in offenses and in the match-up between Gradkowski and Fresno senior Paul Pinegar.
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09-27-05, 02:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
JimFiestSux Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 276	With this being a game time decision, this line shows that books are confident that Gradkowski won'y play but one never knows. If his practices were limited it shows that he will give it a go I believe. Hurt or not 12 1/2 is a big nut to crack here.
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09-27-05, 02:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
sdf SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 17	i think the line takes into account Boise's thrashing of BGreen. If Boise = Fresno, and BGreen = Toledo, then Fresno should beat the crap out of Toledo. Just like Boise did to BGreen last week.
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09-27-05, 02:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
MGK222 SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 20	Thanx for the info.I will be gone most of the day so keep up the good work....If doc likes the play I am sure he knows about the injury.So that is good enough for me..
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09-27-05, 03:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
JimFiestSux Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 276	sdf, After being in the business for 36 years,lol, if the stats are the way the game goes there wouldn't be bookmakimg,lol. Every game would go according. Like the Giants should've kicked san Diego's ass and the Saints should've beat the Vikings,lol, according to stats! BUT remember one thing Toledo is no slouch and was picked to go 9-1 or 8-2 in Conference play but that doesn't come into play here but they are a good team. Any QB with a 70% completion ratio 2 years in a row has to be considered a play hurt or not! Throw out your theory of who beat who in this game. Toledo keeps it close and steals a win . GOOD LUCK ON YOUR PLAY!!
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cruisin SCI Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 105	The person to ask is ACE---maybe he can give us some insight or get some info.
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Tommy 2008 World Champions! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,144	Good info guys Lets hit this one easy tonight
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kcdutton SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 39	I got Toledo +14 -107 and ML +400 on this one! Go Toledo! Good Luck All! KCD
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kcdutton SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 39	Looks lik 1st stringer might be out for Toledo tonight. They might have to start a redshirt freshman. http://www.toledofreepress.com/?id=1212 KCD Hoping for a big time trap game here.
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maniac_19_bg SCI Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 111	Good info KCD! However, this was written yesterday!! I also sense a trap here.
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09-27-05, 09:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
kcdutton SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 39	With all the line movement everyone is trying to jump on Fresno before it goes even higher, which the books are loving. If #1 QB cant go they might have to resort to a more ball controlled offense with short passes. If this turns into a lower scoring afair the +14 looks real good. This is all just my opinion but I really like the points with this one whether he plays or not. Good Luck All KCD
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Happy928 SCI Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Fairfax, Va Posts: 1,505	yea, this game's too iffy.... i think i'll wait til the 2nd half __________________ University of Maryland Terps BABY!
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kcdutton SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 39	Some of the books falling back down to 13.5 I'm feeling real good about getting in at +14 I just think to many people are jumping on FSU Go Toledo!! KCD I also put a good amount on the U63 I think the freshman will start and they are going to try and run a lot. Last edited by kcdutton : 09-27-05 at 09:59 PM.
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09-27-05, 11:38 PM	#20 (permalink)
mrpotter SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 11	JFS, Ace-Ace is saying that Gradkowski is definitely not playing and that we shouldn't believe anything to the contrary.
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