MNF PACKERS VS PANTHERS/WAR ROOM

Eaglesfan · 10-03-05, 04:42 PM

PACKERS +7.5 O/U 43.5 UP FROM 43 LAST NIGHT

PACK
After a loss are 3-5
After playing Buccaneers are 8-1
When playing outside division are 4-6
When they are a dog on the road are 5-5
After being out gained by opponent are 4-5
When playing on grass are 5-5
When playing in October are 6-4
After a loss are 4-5
PANTHERS
After playing Dolphins are 1-1
Before playing Cardinals are 0-1
When playing outside division are 4-6
When they are favored at home are 4-6
After being out gained by opponent are 3-5
When playing on grass are 6-4
When playing in October are 3-7

Some trends to consider:
Green Bay is 3-8-1 ATS in their last 12 games after being .5 to 3 point underdogs
Green Bay is 3-6-0 ATS in their last 9 games
Green Bay is 2-4-0 ATS in their last 6 games after scoring 10 to 20 points
Green Bay is 2-4-0 SU in their last 6 games after being .5 to 3 point underdogs
Carolina is 4-1-0 SU in their last 5 games after being .5 to 3 point favorites
Carolina is 4-1-0 ATS in their last 5 games after being .5 to 3 point favorites
Carolina is 9-4-0 OU in their last 13 games
Carolina is 4-2-0 ATS in their last 6 home games

naught33 · 10-03-05, 07:09 PM

I do not like this line at all...GB is horrible but 7.5 is a lot of points...not sure carolina has the offense to cover that spread, and we all know the magic favre can work on mon night

jron619 · 10-03-05, 08:11 PM

Yaeh but Farve looks soooo average this year.

Tommy · 10-03-05, 08:19 PM

Packers @ Panthers- Green Bay won six of eight series games, winning last three, but at 0-3, Pack is in trouble; they have 30th-ranked red zone defense (5.86), 26th black zone defense (2.43), and have forced only seven 3-and-outs on 30 drives (27th). Pack has one takeaway in three games; their minus-8 turnover ratio is worst in NFL, and now they visit Panther squad reeling from upset loss at Miami. Carolina's defense seems to be problem; they're 26th on 3rd down (45%), 23rd in red zone (4.89), 22nd in black zone (three 80+ yard TD drives in 13 tries), and only nine 3-and-outs forced in 32 drives. Tough to give Favre more than TD, especially in national spotlight, but Carolina superior team here.

Tommy · 10-03-05, 09:09 PM

Wagerline report 4 pm EST

Green Bay 797
Carolina 542

Not real much of a line move at all 7.5 to 8 back to 7.5

kilohana · 10-03-05, 09:20 PM

I will make a big play on tonights game. Game sets up perfectly. Many say GB could hold the NFL #1 pick next year. Their depleted O-line is a major reason. No Walker to strech defenses, and defense couldn't stop Division I-AA school from moving the ball. But everyone knows that Farve is magical on Monday night. This is another one of those intangible stats that you cannot cap. So what to do...Bet with the Monday Night Magic Farve or against one of the worst defenses (if not the worst defense) in the NFL!!! Will do a little more research before I make my big play. No jinx here, but I would use the forbidden 3-word nomenclature thats start with a 'G' and ends with a 'Y', but hate calling it that. So I'll just say its a huge play for me.

If anybody is wondering, I play $100 a unit/*. Average play is 1* have not played bigger then 3* ytd in football or bases.
1/2* =

1* =

2* =

3* =

tonight is at least 5* =

KILO

Tommy · 10-03-05, 09:24 PM

Nice Kilo Looking foward to your pick Right now Im leaning towards Carolina but don't really like the game tonight.

Eaglesfan · 10-03-05, 09:47 PM

ANY BODY THINK IF ALOT OF MONEY COMEING IN ON GB THEY WOULD OF AT LEAST TOOK THAT 7.5 DOWN TO 7??

jron619 · 10-03-05, 10:00 PM

im waiting for 7 also.....cant see GB holding the Panrthers offense down. GB having problems on the o-line and you know A. Green is good for one fumble. They will bring the hosue against Farve tonight. Farve will be hit again and again. Carolina is know for a tough and aggressive D. With GB's defensive problems Carolina;s rec. will get loose and Steve Smith is coming off a 3td performace. And their at Carolina. Plus Carolina needs to get on a roll here. After GB they have Arizona, Detorit and Minnesota. They can go 4-0 and be 5-2. I think Carolina rolls here. This is not Farve of the late 1990's.

Taking Carolina -7.5 but waiting for 7

Eaglesfan · 10-03-05, 10:28 PM

O/U UP TO 44 I M THINKING TEASE OVER 37 PANTHERS -.5

TenPin · 10-03-05, 10:29 PM

It's been -7 -115 at bodog for about 3 hrs now

Tommy · 10-03-05, 10:36 PM

I wouldn't bet anything over 7 if you want to bet Carolina, anything below 7 is good and might put some on it if it reaches under 7. I really cannot see GB winning this game tonight but who knows, they are a bad team and Carolina has a pretty solid Defense or supose to have anyway.. I could see Carolina scoring at will in this game. Steve Smith has been a monster and no one on GB will be able to cover him tonight. I think Carolina makes a statement at home tonight. They are suppose to be a contender in the NFC and they will show it tonight at home against a bad team. GB isn't strong anywhere this year and Carolina will exploit it. Plus I like the fact that Carolina lost last week, they will come out with avengence tonight and beat up a bad team IMO.

kilohana · 10-03-05, 10:51 PM

5* GB/Carolina over 43 (-110) BetJamaica

KILO

Eaglesfan · 10-03-05, 11:04 PM

I VE BEEN GETTING 7.5 -115 THE WHOLE TIME AT BODOG

kilohana · 10-03-05, 11:06 PM

Sportsbook has -7 (-110) if you like carolina

ACEACE · 10-03-05, 11:12 PM

GB VS CAR....

I HAVE LOVE THIS GAME ALL WEEK (WOULD OF LOVE IT MORE IF BOTH MY OVER 2K BETS WOULD OF BAL/OUT!!!!!

STILL LOTS OF MONEY IN THE BANKROLL......NO TIME TO GET IT BACK THIS WEEK...BUT THERE ALWAY 196 MORE REG/SEASON GAMES TO GO

I GOT A VALUE OF +5 1/2 ON GB TONIGHT

YOU CANT KEEP A GREAT QB DOWN ALL SEASON LONG

I SEE A BREAK-OUT GAME HERE

TOO MANY POINT TO GIVE TO GB

A VERY EVEN GAME AND THEY ARE GIVE ME 7 1/2 POINTS

MY BET IS

GB+7 1/2.........................................$2000.00

JUST TRYING TO GET A LITTLE BACK....

POINTS ONLY MATTER IN 17% OF THE GAME
THIS MIGHT BE ONE OF THEM

Tommy · 10-03-05, 11:18 PM

Yeah I agree, but the reason IMO isnt Favre or Green, its the O line which is horrible this year compared to last couple. Thats why they can't get anything going. If GB O line plays well I see a close game but if they don't Carolina will run away. 3 points automatically go to the home team when the line is set. The line is right and I think I will lay off this game

ACEACE · 10-03-05, 11:45 PM

RECAP...FOR TONIGHT

ADDING

7PT TEASER

GD +14 1/2

OVER 36.........................................$600.00

MY BET IS

GB+7 1/2.........................................$2000.00

T/O IS HIGH ON BOTH TEAMS CAR 10 GB 11...I LIKE HOW GB KEEP TB FROM SCORING IN THE 2ND HALF OF THE GAME LAST WEEK....

Tommy · 10-04-05, 12:27 AM

BOL tonight Ace

If anyone wabts Carolina tonight it is -7 -110 at Olympic

Its up to -8 -130 at 5 Dimes

Wagerline report 730 EST is 876-589 GB

I am going to try and make a phone call tonight 30 min before the game. Be Back.

So far the public is all over GB and the over....

Tommy · 10-04-05, 12:29 AM

I meant to say +8 GB -130 at 5 Dimes

10-03-05, 04:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Eaglesfan SCI Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,054	MNF PACKERS VS PANTHERS/WAR ROOM PACKERS +7.5 O/U 43.5 UP FROM 43 LAST NIGHT PACK After a loss are 3-5 After playing Buccaneers are 8-1 When playing outside division are 4-6 When they are a dog on the road are 5-5 After being out gained by opponent are 4-5 When playing on grass are 5-5 When playing in October are 6-4 After a loss are 4-5 PANTHERS After playing Dolphins are 1-1 Before playing Cardinals are 0-1 When playing outside division are 4-6 When they are favored at home are 4-6 After being out gained by opponent are 3-5 When playing on grass are 6-4 When playing in October are 3-7 Some trends to consider: Green Bay is 3-8-1 ATS in their last 12 games after being .5 to 3 point underdogs Green Bay is 3-6-0 ATS in their last 9 games Green Bay is 2-4-0 ATS in their last 6 games after scoring 10 to 20 points Green Bay is 2-4-0 SU in their last 6 games after being .5 to 3 point underdogs Carolina is 4-1-0 SU in their last 5 games after being .5 to 3 point favorites Carolina is 4-1-0 ATS in their last 5 games after being .5 to 3 point favorites Carolina is 9-4-0 OU in their last 13 games Carolina is 4-2-0 ATS in their last 6 home games Last edited by Eaglesfan : 10-03-05 at 05:04 PM.
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10-03-05, 07:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
naught33 SCI Forum Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scarsdale, NY Posts: 13,666	I do not like this line at all...GB is horrible but 7.5 is a lot of points...not sure carolina has the offense to cover that spread, and we all know the magic favre can work on mon night __________________ -naught33 "You miss 100% of all the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky "No one, and I mean no one, comes into our house and pushes us around"-coach from the movie Rudy
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10-03-05, 08:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
jron619 SCI Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: san diego, ca Posts: 608	Yaeh but Farve looks soooo average this year. __________________
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10-03-05, 08:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tommy 2008 World Champions! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,144	Packers @ Panthers- Green Bay won six of eight series games, winning last three, but at 0-3, Pack is in trouble; they have 30th-ranked red zone defense (5.86), 26th black zone defense (2.43), and have forced only seven 3-and-outs on 30 drives (27th). Pack has one takeaway in three games; their minus-8 turnover ratio is worst in NFL, and now they visit Panther squad reeling from upset loss at Miami. Carolina's defense seems to be problem; they're 26th on 3rd down (45%), 23rd in red zone (4.89), 22nd in black zone (three 80+ yard TD drives in 13 tries), and only nine 3-and-outs forced in 32 drives. Tough to give Favre more than TD, especially in national spotlight, but Carolina superior team here.
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10-03-05, 09:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tommy 2008 World Champions! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,144	Wagerline report 4 pm EST Green Bay 797 Carolina 542 Not real much of a line move at all 7.5 to 8 back to 7.5
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10-03-05, 09:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
kilohana SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 61	I will make a big play on tonights game. Game sets up perfectly. Many say GB could hold the NFL #1 pick next year. Their depleted O-line is a major reason. No Walker to strech defenses, and defense couldn't stop Division I-AA school from moving the ball. But everyone knows that Farve is magical on Monday night. This is another one of those intangible stats that you cannot cap. So what to do...Bet with the Monday Night Magic Farve or against one of the worst defenses (if not the worst defense) in the NFL!!! Will do a little more research before I make my big play. No jinx here, but I would use the forbidden 3-word nomenclature thats start with a 'G' and ends with a 'Y', but hate calling it that. So I'll just say its a huge play for me. If anybody is wondering, I play $100 a unit/. Average play is 1 have not played bigger then 3* ytd in football or bases. 1/2* = 1* = 2* = 3* = tonight is at least 5* = KILO
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Tommy 2008 World Champions! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,144	Nice Kilo Looking foward to your pick Right now Im leaning towards Carolina but don't really like the game tonight.
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jron619 SCI Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: san diego, ca Posts: 608	im waiting for 7 also.....cant see GB holding the Panrthers offense down. GB having problems on the o-line and you know A. Green is good for one fumble. They will bring the hosue against Farve tonight. Farve will be hit again and again. Carolina is know for a tough and aggressive D. With GB's defensive problems Carolina;s rec. will get loose and Steve Smith is coming off a 3td performace. And their at Carolina. Plus Carolina needs to get on a roll here. After GB they have Arizona, Detorit and Minnesota. They can go 4-0 and be 5-2. I think Carolina rolls here. This is not Farve of the late 1990's. Taking Carolina -7.5 but waiting for 7 __________________
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TenPin SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Along the shores of Lake Mich. Posts: 31	It's been -7 -115 at bodog for about 3 hrs now
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10-03-05, 10:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tommy 2008 World Champions! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,144	I wouldn't bet anything over 7 if you want to bet Carolina, anything below 7 is good and might put some on it if it reaches under 7. I really cannot see GB winning this game tonight but who knows, they are a bad team and Carolina has a pretty solid Defense or supose to have anyway.. I could see Carolina scoring at will in this game. Steve Smith has been a monster and no one on GB will be able to cover him tonight. I think Carolina makes a statement at home tonight. They are suppose to be a contender in the NFC and they will show it tonight at home against a bad team. GB isn't strong anywhere this year and Carolina will exploit it. Plus I like the fact that Carolina lost last week, they will come out with avengence tonight and beat up a bad team IMO. Last edited by Tommy : 10-03-05 at 10:38 PM.
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10-03-05, 10:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
kilohana SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 61	5* GB/Carolina over 43 (-110) BetJamaica KILO
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kilohana SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 61	Sportsbook has -7 (-110) if you like carolina
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10-03-05, 11:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
ACEACE EX BOOKIE Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: WAYNE MICH Posts: 302	GB VS CAR.... I HAVE LOVE THIS GAME ALL WEEK (WOULD OF LOVE IT MORE IF BOTH MY OVER 2K BETS WOULD OF BAL/OUT!!!!! STILL LOTS OF MONEY IN THE BANKROLL......NO TIME TO GET IT BACK THIS WEEK...BUT THERE ALWAY 196 MORE REG/SEASON GAMES TO GO I GOT A VALUE OF +5 1/2 ON GB TONIGHT YOU CANT KEEP A GREAT QB DOWN ALL SEASON LONG I SEE A BREAK-OUT GAME HERE TOO MANY POINT TO GIVE TO GB A VERY EVEN GAME AND THEY ARE GIVE ME 7 1/2 POINTS MY BET IS GB+7 1/2.........................................$2000.00 JUST TRYING TO GET A LITTLE BACK.... POINTS ONLY MATTER IN 17% OF THE GAME THIS MIGHT BE ONE OF THEM
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10-03-05, 11:18 PM	#17 (permalink)
Tommy 2008 World Champions! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,144	Yeah I agree, but the reason IMO isnt Favre or Green, its the O line which is horrible this year compared to last couple. Thats why they can't get anything going. If GB O line plays well I see a close game but if they don't Carolina will run away. 3 points automatically go to the home team when the line is set. The line is right and I think I will lay off this game
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ACEACE EX BOOKIE Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: WAYNE MICH Posts: 302	RECAP...FOR TONIGHT ADDING 7PT TEASER GD +14 1/2 OVER 36.........................................$600.00 MY BET IS GB+7 1/2.........................................$2000.00 T/O IS HIGH ON BOTH TEAMS CAR 10 GB 11...I LIKE HOW GB KEEP TB FROM SCORING IN THE 2ND HALF OF THE GAME LAST WEEK....
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10-04-05, 12:27 AM	#19 (permalink)
Tommy 2008 World Champions! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,144	BOL tonight Ace If anyone wabts Carolina tonight it is -7 -110 at Olympic Its up to -8 -130 at 5 Dimes Wagerline report 730 EST is 876-589 GB I am going to try and make a phone call tonight 30 min before the game. Be Back. So far the public is all over GB and the over....
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10-04-05, 12:29 AM	#20 (permalink)
Tommy 2008 World Champions! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,144	I meant to say +8 GB -130 at 5 Dimes
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