RAMS VS COLTS/WAR ROOM

Eaglesfan · 10-17-05, 10:05 AM

RAMS +13.5 O/U 51.5

68% ON THE COLTS - THE POINTS

As indicated by the movement of the total, the betting public is favoring the OVER in this game

The betting public is correct when moving the total in ST LOUIS games 44.8% of the time since 1992. (74-91)
The betting public is correct when moving the total in ST LOUIS games 56.2% of the time over the past 3 seasons. (18-14)
The betting public is correct when moving the total in INDIANAPOLIS games 48.5% of the time since 1992. (82-87)
The betting public is correct when moving the total in INDIANAPOLIS games 43.2% of the time over the past 3 seasons. (16-21)

Eaglesfan · 10-17-05, 10:12 AM

Some trends to consider:

St. Louis are 1-5-0 ATS in their last 6 games
St. Louis are 2-8-0 ATS in their last 10 away games
St. Louis are 1-4-0 ATS in their last 5 games after scoring 31 to 40 points
St. Louis are 5-15-1 ATS in their last 21 games after being .5 to 3 point favorites
Indianapolis are 6-1-0 SU in their last 7 games after scoring 21 to 30 points
Indianapolis are 10-2-0 ATS in their last 12 games after being more than 14 point favorites
Indianapolis are 5-2-0 ATS in their last 7 games after scoring 21 to 30 points
Indianapolis are 6-3-0 OU in their last 9 at home

naught33 · 10-17-05, 02:31 PM

i know indy is good but 2 tds on mon night is a lot, esp since the colts offense hasnt exactly been stellar this yr...STL will be the first passing offense indy has faced this yr i think they can put points up on the colt d...prob a not play but if i had to choose id take the pts tonight w stl

Tommy · 10-17-05, 03:08 PM

Rams +13.5 at Colts -13.5 Some places you can get it at 14 5 Dimes and Bodog.

Wagerline 3 PM EST

Colts 825 STL Louis 733

O/U 749 OVER and 419 UNDER

maniac_19_bg · 10-17-05, 04:12 PM

I am thinking of a teaser :
RAMS +20.5
OVER 44.5

25 to win 20

but this still seem a lot of points to me. what do you guys think. By the way I do not care of the statistics you can pour here. Tell me do you think they could just run around without scoring too much. After last game RAMS definately have to take a close look at their D!!!

maniac_19_bg · 10-17-05, 04:16 PM

I might go for:
RAMS +20.5
UNDER 58.5

No matter how good ofencively these teams are this is more than 8 touchdowns.

naught33 · 10-17-05, 04:38 PM

i dunno man, i watched the rams/nyg game, and STL couldnt stop the giants to save their life in the 1h of that game...indys offense is bound to get rolling at some point and dont think the rams can stop them, and i think stl can score on indy...indy will prob win 35-21 of something like that..close to the number IMO..im gonna lay off

kilohana · 10-17-05, 04:39 PM

final score 41-24

kilohana · 10-17-05, 04:41 PM

Indy will destroy the Rams. Honestly, you would put your hard earned $$$ on a team that is bad as the Rams. If so, you probably took Houston last night.

Let me break it down:

Yes the Colt's offense has not been the same from last year, but when you look deeper into what Dungy is trying to accomplish - obviously he knows that offense doesn't win championships. All that high powered offense with no defense....hhmmmmm!!! As fast as Indy's offense could put 7 on the board faster then a 2 pump chump, that would lead to less time of possesion and more time their defense spend on the field, which leads to exhaustion and burn out. Dungy made it clear that one, he wanted to improve his defense and balance off his offense to be more methodical then hit a home run type. This is coming from Dungy from the days of the stingy Dungy defense in Tampa Bay. Very rarely if any do you see a team dominate all facets of a game. Their needs to be balance. That is why you see Manning not throwing for 500 yards and 5 TD's a game. It extends the game and tends to favor your opposition with T.O.P. There is nothing wrong with Manning and the offense. Manning still sports a healthy 94% passer rating. Nothing wrong with Wayne as he only has 5 less receptions then #1 WR harrision. And of James has been getting the bulk of the load in trying to balance the offense. James is on pace to get 375+ carries the most since his somphmore season (his best as a pro) 387/1709/13. The past 3 seasons he has averaged only 307 carries. And yes that may be in part to coming off knee surgery but he's 100% healthy now. So basically you have a well oiled machine in Indianapolis. Dungy took a couple of years but the machine is fine tuned. An offense that can score and not commit stupid turnovers and penalties, and a defense that is championesque!!!

Now on the other hand we have St. Louis. I can't believe I am even writing how pathetic this team has become. Lets see, since their glory days with Vermiel as HC. Marshall Faulk and his ability to run and catch has been the focal point. Since Martz has taken over. It's been nothing but bombs away. He has two very capable backs in Jackson and a aged Faulk...hmmmm. Opposing defense scheme to stop the pass against the Rams. Yes the Rams still throw for 300 yards and a couple TD's, but wouldn't you if you had capable WR's and tossong it up 40+ times a game. Hello this is not the NCAA. Steven Jackson has carried the ball only 76 times in 5 games. 15 touches a game is not going to get it done!!! Martz is an idiot. I think sometimes he's been brainwashed by playing too much Madden or NCAA.

Now on too why Indy not St. Louis. 1st off don't be fooled by the Rams of the past and the Rams of the present. I personally made a sizable wager on the Rams last week, thinking that they had owned the Seahawks at home the L3 years. Oh well for that one. These are the Rams that lost to one of the worst teams if not the worst in my beloved 49ers. That speaks volumes. They barley beat a Cardinals team that had their former statue of liberty Warner playing (McCown is much better). Beat the Teen Titans, got slaughtered by a good NYG team, and could not stop the Seahawks. I watched that game and it was brutal. Although they were able to score, their defense couldn't prevent my high school team from scoring. With that said no Bruce a gimpy Holt, and no protection (Freeney will get at least 2 tonight, not to mention all the pressure he will provide). You can forget about Jackson and Faulk b/c they are not part of the game plan. Sit back and watch the Colts make a mockery of this pathetic Rams team!!!!

KILO

Tommy · 10-17-05, 04:45 PM

Thanks for the writeup Kilo. I agree with the Colts tonight. They should win but 14 is a bunch of points to lay. The Rams could backdoor very easy. Thats what is keeping me from unloading on Indy tonight.

kilohana · 10-17-05, 05:04 PM

very ralely spread comes to play in MNF...i think it was something like 8%.

Week 1 - Atlanta +2 = not needed / outright
Week 2 - NYG -3 = not needed / blowout
Skins +6 = not needed / out right
Week 3 - Broncos -3 = not needed / blowout
Week 4 - GB +7' = needed / huge comeback
Week 5 - Pitt +3 = not needed / outright

As you can see from this year 1 out of 6 games the spead cam into play. But who likes giving 7 and the hook?

KILO

maniac_19_bg · 10-17-05, 05:05 PM

I am so sure everyone that thinks he can cap a game thinks tonight we have a repetition of last night's scenario. So everyone is on Indi and Over tonight and bookies go broke overnight lol.

Tommy · 10-17-05, 05:05 PM

Rams (2-3) @ Colts (5-0)-Martz' absence throws Ram coaching staff into limelight; their DB's are so bad, hard to imagine Peyton not throwing five TD's here, especially since his only previous game vs Rams was 42-17 beating at Jones Dome three years ago. If Rams gave up 28 at 49ers and 44 at Giants, Colt WR's might be fighting in huddle to get plays called for them. Expect St Louis to run ball with Mad Mike out of play-calling equation, as Indy has allowed 109+ running yards in three of last four games. Colts outscored foes 44-6 in first half of games; in 20 opponent drives that started 80+ yards from end zone, Indy has allowed one field goal.

maniac_19_bg · 10-17-05, 05:18 PM

Interesting the OVER is pounded, but the line is not going anywhere (well maybe some half point). My fears will prove rightfull and there will be fewer points than everyone expects!

Eaglesfan · 10-17-05, 05:20 PM

MIGHT BE ALOT OF THE RUN GAME TONIGHT WITHOUT MARTZ CALLING THE PLAYS. 51.5 IS A BIG NUMBER.

maniac_19_bg · 10-17-05, 05:30 PM

Buys and gals you can laugh at me but I will bet RAMS to win the game OUTRIGHT!!! Yeah you read me correct, this is my bet of the year RAMS OURTRIGHT!

I wouldn't say that NYG or Seattle has worse offence than INDI.

Make up your mind before you say "Sh*t happens!"

$100 to win $700

GL

bet365 · 10-17-05, 05:35 PM

I like that total a lot...

looks like Under is my play

maniac_19_bg · 10-17-05, 05:38 PM

Yeah, I'm gonna go on a teaser:
RAMS +20.5
UNDER 58.5

$500

also

$100 on RAMS OUTRIGHT I just found it @ 8.9 !!!!

(Just check what crap teams INDI beat so they are 5-0 and evrey1 is like WOOW)

Eaglesfan · 10-17-05, 06:02 PM

IF THE GAME WASNT IN INDY I MIGHT TAKE A SHOT WITH THE POINTS.
FOR NOW THE UNDER IS MY PLAY ALSO.

hnyloc · 10-17-05, 07:28 PM

Double digit faves on MNF are 13-4 ATS and 16-1 SU. INTERESTING!!!

10-17-05, 10:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
Eaglesfan SCI Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,054	RAMS VS COLTS/WAR ROOM RAMS +13.5 O/U 51.5 68% ON THE COLTS - THE POINTS As indicated by the movement of the total, the betting public is favoring the OVER in this game The betting public is correct when moving the total in ST LOUIS games 44.8% of the time since 1992. (74-91) The betting public is correct when moving the total in ST LOUIS games 56.2% of the time over the past 3 seasons. (18-14) The betting public is correct when moving the total in INDIANAPOLIS games 48.5% of the time since 1992. (82-87) The betting public is correct when moving the total in INDIANAPOLIS games 43.2% of the time over the past 3 seasons. (16-21) Last edited by Eaglesfan : 10-17-05 at 10:37 AM.
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10-17-05, 10:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
Eaglesfan SCI Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,054	Some trends to consider: St. Louis are 1-5-0 ATS in their last 6 games St. Louis are 2-8-0 ATS in their last 10 away games St. Louis are 1-4-0 ATS in their last 5 games after scoring 31 to 40 points St. Louis are 5-15-1 ATS in their last 21 games after being .5 to 3 point favorites Indianapolis are 6-1-0 SU in their last 7 games after scoring 21 to 30 points Indianapolis are 10-2-0 ATS in their last 12 games after being more than 14 point favorites Indianapolis are 5-2-0 ATS in their last 7 games after scoring 21 to 30 points Indianapolis are 6-3-0 OU in their last 9 at home
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10-17-05, 02:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
naught33 SCI Forum Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scarsdale, NY Posts: 13,666	i know indy is good but 2 tds on mon night is a lot, esp since the colts offense hasnt exactly been stellar this yr...STL will be the first passing offense indy has faced this yr i think they can put points up on the colt d...prob a not play but if i had to choose id take the pts tonight w stl __________________ -naught33 "You miss 100% of all the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky "No one, and I mean no one, comes into our house and pushes us around"-coach from the movie Rudy
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10-17-05, 03:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	Rams +13.5 at Colts -13.5 Some places you can get it at 14 5 Dimes and Bodog. Wagerline 3 PM EST Colts 825 STL Louis 733 O/U 749 OVER and 419 UNDER
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10-17-05, 04:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
maniac_19_bg SCI Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 111	I am thinking of a teaser : RAMS +20.5 OVER 44.5 25 to win 20 but this still seem a lot of points to me. what do you guys think. By the way I do not care of the statistics you can pour here. Tell me do you think they could just run around without scoring too much. After last game RAMS definately have to take a close look at their D!!!
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10-17-05, 04:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
maniac_19_bg SCI Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 111	I might go for: RAMS +20.5 UNDER 58.5 No matter how good ofencively these teams are this is more than 8 touchdowns.
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10-17-05, 04:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
naught33 SCI Forum Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scarsdale, NY Posts: 13,666	i dunno man, i watched the rams/nyg game, and STL couldnt stop the giants to save their life in the 1h of that game...indys offense is bound to get rolling at some point and dont think the rams can stop them, and i think stl can score on indy...indy will prob win 35-21 of something like that..close to the number IMO..im gonna lay off __________________ -naught33 "You miss 100% of all the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky "No one, and I mean no one, comes into our house and pushes us around"-coach from the movie Rudy
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10-17-05, 04:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
kilohana SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 61	final score 41-24
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10-17-05, 04:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
kilohana SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 61	Indy will destroy the Rams. Honestly, you would put your hard earned $$$ on a team that is bad as the Rams. If so, you probably took Houston last night. Let me break it down: Yes the Colt's offense has not been the same from last year, but when you look deeper into what Dungy is trying to accomplish - obviously he knows that offense doesn't win championships. All that high powered offense with no defense....hhmmmmm!!! As fast as Indy's offense could put 7 on the board faster then a 2 pump chump, that would lead to less time of possesion and more time their defense spend on the field, which leads to exhaustion and burn out. Dungy made it clear that one, he wanted to improve his defense and balance off his offense to be more methodical then hit a home run type. This is coming from Dungy from the days of the stingy Dungy defense in Tampa Bay. Very rarely if any do you see a team dominate all facets of a game. Their needs to be balance. That is why you see Manning not throwing for 500 yards and 5 TD's a game. It extends the game and tends to favor your opposition with T.O.P. There is nothing wrong with Manning and the offense. Manning still sports a healthy 94% passer rating. Nothing wrong with Wayne as he only has 5 less receptions then #1 WR harrision. And of James has been getting the bulk of the load in trying to balance the offense. James is on pace to get 375+ carries the most since his somphmore season (his best as a pro) 387/1709/13. The past 3 seasons he has averaged only 307 carries. And yes that may be in part to coming off knee surgery but he's 100% healthy now. So basically you have a well oiled machine in Indianapolis. Dungy took a couple of years but the machine is fine tuned. An offense that can score and not commit stupid turnovers and penalties, and a defense that is championesque!!! Now on the other hand we have St. Louis. I can't believe I am even writing how pathetic this team has become. Lets see, since their glory days with Vermiel as HC. Marshall Faulk and his ability to run and catch has been the focal point. Since Martz has taken over. It's been nothing but bombs away. He has two very capable backs in Jackson and a aged Faulk...hmmmm. Opposing defense scheme to stop the pass against the Rams. Yes the Rams still throw for 300 yards and a couple TD's, but wouldn't you if you had capable WR's and tossong it up 40+ times a game. Hello this is not the NCAA. Steven Jackson has carried the ball only 76 times in 5 games. 15 touches a game is not going to get it done!!! Martz is an idiot. I think sometimes he's been brainwashed by playing too much Madden or NCAA. Now on too why Indy not St. Louis. 1st off don't be fooled by the Rams of the past and the Rams of the present. I personally made a sizable wager on the Rams last week, thinking that they had owned the Seahawks at home the L3 years. Oh well for that one. These are the Rams that lost to one of the worst teams if not the worst in my beloved 49ers. That speaks volumes. They barley beat a Cardinals team that had their former statue of liberty Warner playing (McCown is much better). Beat the Teen Titans, got slaughtered by a good NYG team, and could not stop the Seahawks. I watched that game and it was brutal. Although they were able to score, their defense couldn't prevent my high school team from scoring. With that said no Bruce a gimpy Holt, and no protection (Freeney will get at least 2 tonight, not to mention all the pressure he will provide). You can forget about Jackson and Faulk b/c they are not part of the game plan. Sit back and watch the Colts make a mockery of this pathetic Rams team!!!! KILO
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10-17-05, 04:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	Thanks for the writeup Kilo. I agree with the Colts tonight. They should win but 14 is a bunch of points to lay. The Rams could backdoor very easy. Thats what is keeping me from unloading on Indy tonight.
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10-17-05, 05:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
kilohana SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 61	very ralely spread comes to play in MNF...i think it was something like 8%. Week 1 - Atlanta +2 = not needed / outright Week 2 - NYG -3 = not needed / blowout Skins +6 = not needed / out right Week 3 - Broncos -3 = not needed / blowout Week 4 - GB +7' = needed / huge comeback Week 5 - Pitt +3 = not needed / outright As you can see from this year 1 out of 6 games the spead cam into play. But who likes giving 7 and the hook? KILO
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10-17-05, 05:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
maniac_19_bg SCI Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 111	I am so sure everyone that thinks he can cap a game thinks tonight we have a repetition of last night's scenario. So everyone is on Indi and Over tonight and bookies go broke overnight lol.
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10-17-05, 05:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	Rams (2-3) @ Colts (5-0)-Martz' absence throws Ram coaching staff into limelight; their DB's are so bad, hard to imagine Peyton not throwing five TD's here, especially since his only previous game vs Rams was 42-17 beating at Jones Dome three years ago. If Rams gave up 28 at 49ers and 44 at Giants, Colt WR's might be fighting in huddle to get plays called for them. Expect St Louis to run ball with Mad Mike out of play-calling equation, as Indy has allowed 109+ running yards in three of last four games. Colts outscored foes 44-6 in first half of games; in 20 opponent drives that started 80+ yards from end zone, Indy has allowed one field goal.
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10-17-05, 05:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
maniac_19_bg SCI Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 111	Interesting the OVER is pounded, but the line is not going anywhere (well maybe some half point). My fears will prove rightfull and there will be fewer points than everyone expects!
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10-17-05, 05:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
Eaglesfan SCI Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,054	MIGHT BE ALOT OF THE RUN GAME TONIGHT WITHOUT MARTZ CALLING THE PLAYS. 51.5 IS A BIG NUMBER.
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10-17-05, 05:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
maniac_19_bg SCI Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 111	Buys and gals you can laugh at me but I will bet RAMS to win the game OUTRIGHT!!! Yeah you read me correct, this is my bet of the year RAMS OURTRIGHT! I wouldn't say that NYG or Seattle has worse offence than INDI. Make up your mind before you say "Sh*t happens!" $100 to win $700 GL
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10-17-05, 05:35 PM	#17 (permalink)
bet365 SCI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 76	I like that total a lot... looks like Under is my play
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10-17-05, 05:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
maniac_19_bg SCI Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 111	Yeah, I'm gonna go on a teaser: RAMS +20.5 UNDER 58.5 $500 also $100 on RAMS OUTRIGHT I just found it @ 8.9 !!!! (Just check what crap teams INDI beat so they are 5-0 and evrey1 is like WOOW) Last edited by maniac_19_bg : 10-17-05 at 05:39 PM.
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Eaglesfan SCI Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,054	IF THE GAME WASNT IN INDY I MIGHT TAKE A SHOT WITH THE POINTS. FOR NOW THE UNDER IS MY PLAY ALSO.
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10-17-05, 07:28 PM	#20 (permalink)
hnyloc SCI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 188	Double digit faves on MNF are 13-4 ATS and 16-1 SU. INTERESTING!!!
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