ATP / WTA MON

DUlrich1227 · 05-01-05, 05:11 PM

No lines yet but here are my early leans in ROME

Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI) vs Tomas Berdych (CZE)

Andy Roddick (USA) vs Greg Rusedski (GBR)

Kenneth Carlsen (DEN) vs Sebastien Grosejan (FRA)

Richard Gasquet (FRA) vs Paradorn Srichaphan (THA)

Juan Monaco (ARG) vs Robin Soderling (SWE)

naught33 · 05-01-05, 05:12 PM

like the leans, gasquet should be a reasonable line..the others might be high, i dunno

Hope 1 · 05-01-05, 05:54 PM

Carlsen has no chance, assuming Grosjean's shoulder is ok. I cant see the moron entering if it wasnt. Parlay material there.

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW PARADORN WILL BEAT GASQUET. Richard is 18-1 ytd on clay (includes Challengers and qualies). he has beaten the likes of Mantilla, Federer, Davydenko, O Hernandez, Starace , Montanes, Garcia-Lopez. He went through qualies ina breeze here at Rome. Rome, typically has 'faster' clay, with Hamburg being the slowest and Roland Garros somewhere in the middle- hence big serves and hitters have done fairly well here in the past--havign said that, no way Paradorn wins here; depending on the line straight up or parlay material. DEFINITE PLAY FOR ME..with a bullet..... :wink:

tough to argue against Monaco, Soderling is no where to be found. Wawrinka is a SOLID young talent, Berdych can be very tough--should be a good match. Andy should be around -900 to -1000.

........Henin does it again, hehehehehehehehe........Nalbandian was an easy call, with Pavel gogin through way too much thi sweek an dhavign his arm 'in pain' during the Haas match. Finally, David wins another ATP event, lol

ROME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hope 1 · 05-01-05, 06:14 PM

incidently, Monaco had a great comeback in qualies today-- was down a break 2-3 to Wessels in the third and won th enext 4 games to close out the match--very nice.

some very good first round matches in Berlin fo rthe ladies, for tomm;

Peng vs Sugiyama-- the Chienes gal can win here. Took a set off Henin on clay and lost a thriller to Vera on clay as well. Ai is not great on this surface--good gmes line play, IMHO...i 'think'.....lol

Center Court

11.00 Uhr / 11.00am

Shuai Peng vs. Ai Sugiyama
Anca Barna vs. Flavia Pennetta
Anna Chakvetadze vs. Mary Pierce
Martina Müller vs. Conchita Martinez
Anna-L. Groenefeld vs. Evgenia Linetskaya

Court 1

11.00 Uhr / 11.00am

Karolina Sprem vs. Virginie Razzano
Kveta Peschke vs. Martina Sucha
Jill Craybas vs. Stephanie Gehrlein
Magdalena Maleeva vs. Vera Douchevina

Court 2

11.00 Uhr / 11.00am

Alina Jidkova vs. Maria Vento-Kabchi
Marta Marrero vs. Klara Koukalova
Tatiana Panova vs. Anabel Medina G.
Katerina Bohmova vs. Eleni Daniilidou

Court 4

tough to see Pennetta losing two in a row in the first round on clay, even if Barna is playign at home--Anca is a mess right now

VAMOS!!!!!!!

Hope 1 · 05-01-05, 06:16 PM

Sharapova is back.........she should be in porn........

naught33 · 05-01-05, 06:40 PM

haha bro, yeah sharapova is a hottie...don't mind seeing more of her!

great info about the matches, i'm waiting to see the lines before I make any judgements, have a feeling a lot of the lines will be ultra high so unless you parlay them probably not worth playing, hopefully i'm wrong and there will be some good ones!

DUlrich1227 · 05-01-05, 06:53 PM

GOODSTUFF THANKS HOPE1 !!! 8)

Hope 1 · 05-01-05, 06:54 PM

yep naught your right.

bet365 seems to always have the lines up early. They inflate the favs but gives you an idea of the lines. Not good stuff for tomm;

http://www.bet365.com/home/languageindex.asp

Hope 1 · 05-01-05, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DUlrich1227

GOODSTUFF THANKS HOPE1 !!! 8)

thks pal :wink:

Buckery · 05-01-05, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hope 1

Sharapova is back.........she should be in porn........

HAHA... I couldn't agree more

Good info

B

Hope 1 · 05-01-05, 06:59 PM

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Pavel said he was weakened by stomach problems and fatigued after beating Tommy Haas in almost three hours in Saturday's semifinal.

he has Canas, probably going off Wed. I think that old man river Pavel is in trouble vs the Argentinian

DUlrich1227 · 05-01-05, 07:01 PM

i agree on canas..

one thing of note..

the CLAY IN ROME apparently plays pretty fast..

Hope 1 · 05-01-05, 07:04 PM

G Gaudio, careful with him this week; since 2001 AT ROME;

2001--out first round
2002-- out first round
2003-- out third round
2004-- out first round

my goodness, maybe he doesnt like Italy?

Hope 1 · 05-01-05, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DUlrich1227

i agree on canas..

one thing of note..

the CLAY IN ROME apparently plays pretty fast..

yep, Andy reached the semi's here in '02. But '03 gone seocnd round and '04 gone first round.

maybe JJ wins vs Seppi?--big server, low line......i'm gogin to feel things out, stay away from tough calls; maybe one parlay for me tomm with big favs

later guys

LETS BRING DOWN ROME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

naught33 · 05-01-05, 07:27 PM

thanks for the lines buddy, going to check them out tonight, not sure anything worth playing though at first glance....although I think gonzo could take out coria, i know im probably crazy but i said might, i didn't say he would, lol....henman/kuerten is intriguing.....if kuerten is healthy he should win, but he got whooped in his last match.

Tommy · 05-01-05, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckery

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hope 1

Sharapova is back.........she should be in porn........

HAHA... I couldn't agree more

Good info

B

LMFAO BOTH OF YOU FUNNY SHIT!!

Good Info thats some funny shit Buck

DUlrich1227 · 05-01-05, 07:34 PM

was just looking at GUGA v HENMAN

+137 at 5dimes.

I deffintly think its worth a small play..gonna do some more research

Tommy · 05-01-05, 07:34 PM

BOL this week David lets kick the man in the ass and then kick him again when he tries to get up

Pay back is a bitch my bookie :evil:

DUlrich1227 · 05-01-05, 07:54 PM

ok i like the guga play...

hes been in rome for a week training with
Argentine Guillermo Coria, Nicolas Kiefer , Ivan Ljubicic, and Max Mirnyi,

tim is a number 4 seed here

h2h these 4-3 in favor of henman..( all on hard though. no h2h on claY)

henman on clay is 51-36 life time
made it to the 3rd here last year.. but going back and looking at his clay draws last year..they have been pretty easy IMHO

Gustavo is 155-47 on clay life time with a lost more impressive wins ..and some not so impressive looses though..

well those are my thoughts.. the ? is how healthy is he ??
I think odds of + 137 make it worth a small small play..

GUSTAVO KUERTEN (CZE) +137 $50.00 $68.50

If this goes up at all i may throw another 50 on him !

also looking at some other dogs..
seppi v JJ
DI MAURO v AGASSI

8)

Tommy · 05-01-05, 07:56 PM

BOL on Guga David He usually plays well this time of year :D But so does Timmy, he becomes a clay court specialist this time last year :?

05-01-05, 05:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
DUlrich1227 SCI Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sunrise, Fl Posts: 1,973	ATP / WTA MON No lines yet but here are my early leans in ROME Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI) vs Tomas Berdych (CZE) Andy Roddick (USA) vs Greg Rusedski (GBR) Kenneth Carlsen (DEN) vs Sebastien Grosejan (FRA) Richard Gasquet (FRA) vs Paradorn Srichaphan (THA) Juan Monaco (ARG) vs Robin Soderling (SWE)
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naught33 SCI Forum Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scarsdale, NY Posts: 13,666	like the leans, gasquet should be a reasonable line..the others might be high, i dunno __________________ -naught33 "You miss 100% of all the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky "No one, and I mean no one, comes into our house and pushes us around"-coach from the movie Rudy
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Hope 1 SCI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 337	Carlsen has no chance, assuming Grosjean's shoulder is ok. I cant see the moron entering if it wasnt. Parlay material there. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW PARADORN WILL BEAT GASQUET. Richard is 18-1 ytd on clay (includes Challengers and qualies). he has beaten the likes of Mantilla, Federer, Davydenko, O Hernandez, Starace , Montanes, Garcia-Lopez. He went through qualies ina breeze here at Rome. Rome, typically has 'faster' clay, with Hamburg being the slowest and Roland Garros somewhere in the middle- hence big serves and hitters have done fairly well here in the past--havign said that, no way Paradorn wins here; depending on the line straight up or parlay material. DEFINITE PLAY FOR ME..with a bullet..... :wink: tough to argue against Monaco, Soderling is no where to be found. Wawrinka is a SOLID young talent, Berdych can be very tough--should be a good match. Andy should be around -900 to -1000. ........Henin does it again, hehehehehehehehe........Nalbandian was an easy call, with Pavel gogin through way too much thi sweek an dhavign his arm 'in pain' during the Haas match. Finally, David wins another ATP event, lol ROME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05-01-05, 06:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hope 1 SCI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 337	incidently, Monaco had a great comeback in qualies today-- was down a break 2-3 to Wessels in the third and won th enext 4 games to close out the match--very nice. some very good first round matches in Berlin fo rthe ladies, for tomm; Peng vs Sugiyama-- the Chienes gal can win here. Took a set off Henin on clay and lost a thriller to Vera on clay as well. Ai is not great on this surface--good gmes line play, IMHO...i 'think'.....lol Center Court 11.00 Uhr / 11.00am Shuai Peng vs. Ai Sugiyama Anca Barna vs. Flavia Pennetta Anna Chakvetadze vs. Mary Pierce Martina Müller vs. Conchita Martinez Anna-L. Groenefeld vs. Evgenia Linetskaya Court 1 11.00 Uhr / 11.00am Karolina Sprem vs. Virginie Razzano Kveta Peschke vs. Martina Sucha Jill Craybas vs. Stephanie Gehrlein Magdalena Maleeva vs. Vera Douchevina Court 2 11.00 Uhr / 11.00am Alina Jidkova vs. Maria Vento-Kabchi Marta Marrero vs. Klara Koukalova Tatiana Panova vs. Anabel Medina G. Katerina Bohmova vs. Eleni Daniilidou Court 4 tough to see Pennetta losing two in a row in the first round on clay, even if Barna is playign at home--Anca is a mess right now VAMOS!!!!!!!
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Hope 1 SCI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 337	Sharapova is back.........she should be in porn........
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naught33 SCI Forum Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scarsdale, NY Posts: 13,666	haha bro, yeah sharapova is a hottie...don't mind seeing more of her! great info about the matches, i'm waiting to see the lines before I make any judgements, have a feeling a lot of the lines will be ultra high so unless you parlay them probably not worth playing, hopefully i'm wrong and there will be some good ones! __________________ -naught33 "You miss 100% of all the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky "No one, and I mean no one, comes into our house and pushes us around"-coach from the movie Rudy
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Hope 1 SCI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 337	yep naught your right. bet365 seems to always have the lines up early. They inflate the favs but gives you an idea of the lines. Not good stuff for tomm; http://www.bet365.com/home/languageindex.asp
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DUlrich1227 SCI Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sunrise, Fl Posts: 1,973	i agree on canas.. one thing of note.. the CLAY IN ROME apparently plays pretty fast..
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Hope 1 SCI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 337	G Gaudio, careful with him this week; since 2001 AT ROME; 2001--out first round 2002-- out first round 2003-- out third round 2004-- out first round my goodness, maybe he doesnt like Italy?
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naught33 SCI Forum Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scarsdale, NY Posts: 13,666	thanks for the lines buddy, going to check them out tonight, not sure anything worth playing though at first glance....although I think gonzo could take out coria, i know im probably crazy but i said might, i didn't say he would, lol....henman/kuerten is intriguing.....if kuerten is healthy he should win, but he got whooped in his last match. __________________ -naught33 "You miss 100% of all the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky "No one, and I mean no one, comes into our house and pushes us around"-coach from the movie Rudy
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DUlrich1227 SCI Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sunrise, Fl Posts: 1,973	was just looking at GUGA v HENMAN +137 at 5dimes. I deffintly think its worth a small play..gonna do some more research
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Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	BOL this week David lets kick the man in the ass and then kick him again when he tries to get up Pay back is a bitch my bookie :evil:
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DUlrich1227 SCI Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sunrise, Fl Posts: 1,973	ok i like the guga play... hes been in rome for a week training with Argentine Guillermo Coria, Nicolas Kiefer , Ivan Ljubicic, and Max Mirnyi, tim is a number 4 seed here h2h these 4-3 in favor of henman..( all on hard though. no h2h on claY) henman on clay is 51-36 life time made it to the 3rd here last year.. but going back and looking at his clay draws last year..they have been pretty easy IMHO Gustavo is 155-47 on clay life time with a lost more impressive wins ..and some not so impressive looses though.. well those are my thoughts.. the ? is how healthy is he ?? I think odds of + 137 make it worth a small small play.. GUSTAVO KUERTEN (CZE) +137 $50.00 $68.50 If this goes up at all i may throw another 50 on him ! also looking at some other dogs.. seppi v JJ DI MAURO v AGASSI 8)
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Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	BOL on Guga David He usually plays well this time of year :D But so does Timmy, he becomes a clay court specialist this time last year :?
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