Wimbledon: TO WIN OUTRIGHT

Buckery · 06-10-05, 11:38 AM

5* Roger Federer TO WIN WIMBLEDON -145

Juice schoomz.. Roger is a beast on the grass and his shots are all magnified on this surface. He's got it all. One handed backhand, lethal forehand, service of 130+ and a confident demeneur. Can't go wrong.

There are so many unexperienced grass court players that it makes it easy for Roger to advance. He completely outclasses people on this surface both with his skill and personality. Take him to win, his biggest threat outside of Andy Roddick is a Lleyton Hewitt that has been put on the shelf for a few months. Forget about any Spainard or Argentine winning THIS title

Roger is 0/2 in Grand Slams so far this year and this is his #1 favorite. Nothing else like the All England club.

GL Roger

naught33 · 06-10-05, 12:36 PM

BOL but im not a federer fan, im so sick of them sucking this guys cock on tv, lol...i hope he doesn't win a GS this yr so maybe they will stop saying he is the best ever because he isn't....he MIGHT be when his career is over but he has a long way to go....hopefully AA is gonna be healthy enough to give it a go a wimbledon

Hope 1 · 06-12-05, 07:45 AM

Buckery agree 100% here. The draw comes out on July 16,2005. But given this is grass, an outright pick this early on Federer with THAT LINE is warranted, IMHO.

Federer, as you stated out classes everyone on this surface. Can he go down? of course he can, hits a hot player look out. He started off slowly this week but is starting to heat up--that match vs Haas was NOT AS CLOSE as the score indicated; NEVER FACED break point and faile dto convert numerous break point chances. As Buck stated there are onyl a handfull of players in a best of five on grass that can hurt him-makes this wager appealing.

Federer ON GRASS since 2003 (2 full seasons and this yr); 29-0 4 ATP titles. 75 SETS played he has won 70!!!

On grass to win you need the following ( a player who has both tools and does both exceptionally well can dominate this surface, ex., Pete Sampras--IF THERE WAS EVER A PLAYER WHO WAS IDEAL FOR GRASS IT WAS PETE, what a clinic in serve and volleying, great great great great kick serve!!!).
a) Serve-- of the three main surfaces (grass, clay, hardcourt) a serve will go 'fastest' off of grass. Hence, less reaction time to return hence greater probability of service winners. Need a big serve. Just look at the players that play well on this surface, most all have big serves;
ex; I Karlovic-- probably BEST example here. Has a massive serve and that's it. No tools from the baseline; record on grass since 2001 including challengers ; 37-16 (67%)and on clay 23-26 (46%)

a) Volley-- if you dont have a big serve you better do this well. ex., Tim Henman, certainly not a big server but great volleyer. On grass you dont want to be in long rallies; danger of unpredictable ball bounces. In addition, the bounce characteristics will vary on a given court as the grass wears out (ie., as more matches is played on it).

Just a quick note--Nadal has NONE of the above in his arsenal. Add to that minimal experince on this surface makes him a NO THREAT to win Wimbledon. His performance vs Waske this past week is evidence(and i dont buy his excuse of ' i was tired' after the match. If you were tired, dont enter the tournament.)

players that can make noise;

Mario Ancic-- sweet game for this surface, knocked off Henman with ease a yr ago reaching the semi's. If he gets hot, look out. DANGEROUS player.

David Nalbandian-- plays well on all surfaces. HAS NEITHER of the above characteristics, lol, go figure. WILL HE EVER BE A THREAT TO WIN A GRAND SLAM? step up to the plate time David.......

I Karlovic-- wont win it, but on a given day can be dangerous. Just ask L Hewitt

A Roddick-- CERTAINLY he can win it. As Buck stated, most likely him vs Fed again in the final. HE LED mutant A YR AGO 1 set up plus UP A BREAK in the secodn set, the rains came mutant re-grouped and went on to survive and win.

S Grosjean-- good player to include in parlays. Plays well on this surface.

L Hewitt-- has been off for awile battling injury (toe). Still has another week of tennis to prepare. GREAT grass court player, but someone will have to beat mutant FOR HIM, he wont do it. He can WIN this tournament if he gets 'help'. Other than mutant he can handle ANYONE on this surface.

Roland Garros ended with a TEENAGER fulfillign his destiny. Now Wimbledon, is it mutant's destiny to smash Borg's record of 5 straight? He goes for number three in two weeks........

Play looks solid Buckery, good luck my man!!!!!!!!!

Hope 1 · 06-12-05, 07:45 AM

note; A Myskina, bet agaisnt at Wimbledon. Sadly her mother is battlign cancer. Her mind is not on the court. Stunning first round exist at Roland Garros, most likely more of the same at Wimbledon.

take care

George

Buckery · 06-12-05, 11:01 AM

Thanks for the writeup, great stuff...

I think Roger steamrolls to the finals of this event.

B

naught33 · 06-12-05, 01:09 PM

i dont see him steamrolling, he might win it, even that im not so sure, he won this week but wasn't dominating anybody...the match today with safin was a tight one, which will only help marat's chances at wimbledon if they meet again knowing he can play w federer on grass...nothing would make me happier than to see federer lose 1st round! hehe

Buckery · 06-12-05, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naught33

i dont see him steamrolling, he might win it, even that im not so sure, he won this week but wasn't dominating anybody...the match today with safin was a tight one, which will only help marat's chances at wimbledon if they meet again knowing he can play w federer on grass...nothing would make me happier than to see federer lose 1st round! hehe

Roger won both sets by a break, Safin won in a tiebreak.

Safin is one of his biggest threats maybe this week. He will have no problems on this surface

Tommy · 06-12-05, 02:46 PM

Best of Luck Buck

I think Fed has no problems getting to the semis and if you feel you need to hedge when the time comes, which is a possiblity. then your in good shape. Good writeup brother.

Good Stuff George

I cant see why Federer doesnt win Wimbledon, like George said, he will have to get beat by a very hot player.

Tommy · 07-04-05, 05:14 AM

MONEY!!!!!!!!!

NICE BUCK

The guy is just insanely disgusting on the grass

Buckery · 07-04-05, 05:49 AM

Thus the bet

B

06-10-05, 11:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
Buckery SCI Soccer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 1,533	Wimbledon: TO WIN OUTRIGHT *5 Roger Federer TO WIN WIMBLEDON -145** Juice schoomz.. Roger is a beast on the grass and his shots are all magnified on this surface. He's got it all. One handed backhand, lethal forehand, service of 130+ and a confident demeneur. Can't go wrong. There are so many unexperienced grass court players that it makes it easy for Roger to advance. He completely outclasses people on this surface both with his skill and personality. Take him to win, his biggest threat outside of Andy Roddick is a Lleyton Hewitt that has been put on the shelf for a few months. Forget about any Spainard or Argentine winning THIS title Roger is 0/2 in Grand Slams so far this year and this is his #1 favorite. Nothing else like the All England club. GL Roger __________________ It's about winning, not being greedy Follow my Soccer & Tennis plays: http://www.sportscapperisland.com/fo...occer-betting/ GL!
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06-10-05, 12:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
naught33 SCI Forum Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scarsdale, NY Posts: 13,666	BOL but im not a federer fan, im so sick of them sucking this guys cock on tv, lol...i hope he doesn't win a GS this yr so maybe they will stop saying he is the best ever because he isn't....he MIGHT be when his career is over but he has a long way to go....hopefully AA is gonna be healthy enough to give it a go a wimbledon __________________ -naught33 "You miss 100% of all the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky "No one, and I mean no one, comes into our house and pushes us around"-coach from the movie Rudy
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06-12-05, 07:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
Hope 1 SCI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 337	Buckery agree 100% here. The draw comes out on July 16,2005. But given this is grass, an outright pick this early on Federer with THAT LINE is warranted, IMHO. Federer, as you stated out classes everyone on this surface. Can he go down? of course he can, hits a hot player look out. He started off slowly this week but is starting to heat up--that match vs Haas was NOT AS CLOSE as the score indicated; NEVER FACED break point and faile dto convert numerous break point chances. As Buck stated there are onyl a handfull of players in a best of five on grass that can hurt him-makes this wager appealing. Federer ON GRASS since 2003 (2 full seasons and this yr); 29-0 4 ATP titles. 75 SETS played he has won 70!!! On grass to win you need the following ( a player who has both tools and does both exceptionally well can dominate this surface, ex., Pete Sampras--IF THERE WAS EVER A PLAYER WHO WAS IDEAL FOR GRASS IT WAS PETE, what a clinic in serve and volleying, great great great great kick serve!!!). a) Serve-- of the three main surfaces (grass, clay, hardcourt) a serve will go 'fastest' off of grass. Hence, less reaction time to return hence greater probability of service winners. Need a big serve. Just look at the players that play well on this surface, most all have big serves; ex; I Karlovic-- probably BEST example here. Has a massive serve and that's it. No tools from the baseline; record on grass since 2001 including challengers ; 37-16 (67%)and on clay 23-26 (46%) a) Volley-- if you dont have a big serve you better do this well. ex., Tim Henman, certainly not a big server but great volleyer. On grass you dont want to be in long rallies; danger of unpredictable ball bounces. In addition, the bounce characteristics will vary on a given court as the grass wears out (ie., as more matches is played on it). Just a quick note--Nadal has NONE of the above in his arsenal. Add to that minimal experince on this surface makes him a NO THREAT to win Wimbledon. His performance vs Waske this past week is evidence(and i dont buy his excuse of ' i was tired' after the match. If you were tired, dont enter the tournament.) players that can make noise; Mario Ancic-- sweet game for this surface, knocked off Henman with ease a yr ago reaching the semi's. If he gets hot, look out. DANGEROUS player. David Nalbandian-- plays well on all surfaces. HAS NEITHER of the above characteristics, lol, go figure. WILL HE EVER BE A THREAT TO WIN A GRAND SLAM? step up to the plate time David....... I Karlovic-- wont win it, but on a given day can be dangerous. Just ask L Hewitt A Roddick-- CERTAINLY he can win it. As Buck stated, most likely him vs Fed again in the final. HE LED mutant A YR AGO 1 set up plus UP A BREAK in the secodn set, the rains came mutant re-grouped and went on to survive and win. S Grosjean-- good player to include in parlays. Plays well on this surface. L Hewitt-- has been off for awile battling injury (toe). Still has another week of tennis to prepare. GREAT grass court player, but someone will have to beat mutant FOR HIM, he wont do it. He can WIN this tournament if he gets 'help'. Other than mutant he can handle ANYONE on this surface. Roland Garros ended with a TEENAGER fulfillign his destiny. Now Wimbledon, is it mutant's destiny to smash Borg's record of 5 straight? He goes for number three in two weeks........ Play looks solid Buckery, good luck my man!!!!!!!!!
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Hope 1 SCI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 337	note; A Myskina, bet agaisnt at Wimbledon. Sadly her mother is battlign cancer. Her mind is not on the court. Stunning first round exist at Roland Garros, most likely more of the same at Wimbledon. take care George
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06-12-05, 11:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
Buckery SCI Soccer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 1,533	Thanks for the writeup, great stuff... I think Roger steamrolls to the finals of this event. B __________________ It's about winning, not being greedy Follow my Soccer & Tennis plays: http://www.sportscapperisland.com/fo...occer-betting/ GL!
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06-12-05, 01:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
naught33 SCI Forum Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scarsdale, NY Posts: 13,666	i dont see him steamrolling, he might win it, even that im not so sure, he won this week but wasn't dominating anybody...the match today with safin was a tight one, which will only help marat's chances at wimbledon if they meet again knowing he can play w federer on grass...nothing would make me happier than to see federer lose 1st round! hehe __________________ -naught33 "You miss 100% of all the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky "No one, and I mean no one, comes into our house and pushes us around"-coach from the movie Rudy
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Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	Best of Luck Buck I think Fed has no problems getting to the semis and if you feel you need to hedge when the time comes, which is a possiblity. then your in good shape. Good writeup brother. Good Stuff George I cant see why Federer doesnt win Wimbledon, like George said, he will have to get beat by a very hot player.
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07-04-05, 05:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	MONEY!!!!!!!!! NICE BUCK The guy is just insanely disgusting on the grass
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07-04-05, 05:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
Buckery SCI Soccer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 1,533	Thus the bet B __________________ It's about winning, not being greedy Follow my Soccer & Tennis plays: http://www.sportscapperisland.com/fo...occer-betting/ GL!
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