French Open

Buckery · 06-07-07, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by soxaliscious

Women's Semifinals.............

Justine Henin......12 units..............Justine is the queen of clay. She has an amazing backhand and moves so well around the court. On top of that she has won something like 30 straight games during this French Open. She's amazing on that surface. Her opponet Jelena Jankovic is having the best year of her life and is on her way to becoming a top 3 player. I think on any surface other than clay I would pick Jankovic but since it's clay I'll roll with Justine.

I don't cap WTA at all but 50-3 for Justine last 3 years on clay, pretty dang unbelievable. She plays a lot of error free tennis and it shows. How many errors will Jelena be forced into tommorow I wonder?

Out of boredum today I'd lay on your plays but why do that when I can bet on it on the fly

BOL today, as far as I can see your plays look solid!

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Tommy · 06-07-07, 11:37 AM

Both come through easily.

Very nice calls Sox and congrats to all that made some $$

Tommy · 06-07-07, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckery

I don't cap WTA at all but 50-3 for Justine last 3 years on clay, pretty dang unbelievable. She plays a lot of error free tennis and it shows. How many errors will Jelena be forced into tommorow I wonder?

Out of boredum today I'd lay on your plays but why do that when I can bet on it on the fly

BOL today, as far as I can see your plays look solid!

B

Yeah Buck, Justine has been lights out on clay for a while now.

Buckery · 06-07-07, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by soxaliscious

Women's Semifinals.............

Justine Henin......12 units..............Justine is the queen of clay. She has an amazing backhand and moves so well around the court. On top of that she has won something like 30 straight games during this French Open. She's amazing on that surface. Her opponet Jelena Jankovic is having the best year of her life and is on her way to becoming a top 3 player. I think on any surface other than clay I would pick Jankovic but since it's clay I'll roll with Justine.

Anna Ivanovic........10 units........2005 belonged to the Belgians, 2006 belonged to the Russians and 2007 belongs to the Serbs. It's tough going against Maria Sharapova but I think Ivanovic has a great shot at winning this match. Both players are tall, have great serves and plenty of power but I think the one thing that seperates them is their movement on clay. Sharapova doesn't slide. I think in order to be one of the best on clay you have to slide. (Unless you're Serena) But Ivanovic is playing out of her mind right now and I think as long as she stays away from making too many unforced errors she has a great shot.

Maybe I'll get in on your WTA this week coming

Nice calls.

AUTIGER · 06-08-07, 12:49 AM

keep it up bro. Thanks for the tail!

soxaliscious · 06-08-07, 10:13 AM

No problem, Matt and thanks guys. The men's semifinal matches are not worth betting on so i'll just stay away until the finals.

Buckery · 06-09-07, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by soxaliscious

I have 5 units on Justine Henin to win it all, I think it is her tourney to lose and she has that divorce behind her. Also, both she and Mauresomo have the best backhand in the WTA.

Finally cashed Henin...

Gotta love futures. Good job.

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soxaliscious · 06-09-07, 10:48 AM

Thanks, Buckery. Yea Ivanovic played her tough for the first two games but it was over after that. I like both of those players so I was happy either way. Can't wait til Wimbledon!!!!!!!

Tommy · 06-09-07, 02:58 PM

Nice French guys.

Damn, Justine bulldozed Anna lol. Go Fed tomorrow!!

Tommy · 06-09-07, 03:00 PM

I'm going to host a huge US Open contest in August, right here at SCI. It will be fun.

naught33 · 06-10-07, 12:14 AM

yeah no surprise really w jhh, by far and away best woman on clay....much lilke nadal on the mens side, rafa takes the title in a little over 8 hrs

naught33 · 06-10-07, 12:27 PM

hope some ppl put some coin on rafa today, easy money, french open domination continues VAMOS RAFA

Buckery · 06-10-07, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by naught33

hope some ppl put some coin on rafa today, easy money, french open domination continues VAMOS RAFA

I laid pretty heavy on that today. No need to post a -225 though

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soxaliscious · 06-10-07, 12:59 PM

Nadal is great on clay but unfortunately for him there is only one major played on it. I think he is a great player but in my eyes Federer is still better because he domintates year around. Nadal does not make the finals of any other major. Nadal is the undisputed king of clay but that is about it.

naught33 · 06-10-07, 01:48 PM

agreed...but rafa did make finals at wimbledon last yr, which is supposedly his worst surface and he barely plays on it...the difference between the two is federer will only lose to maybe 4-5 players on the tour if that...nadal, canas, bandy give him trouble...and maybe roddick or someone else can beat him here and there...nadal is more likely to lose to other players more often but he can beat fed in the big h2h meetings..

soxaliscious · 06-10-07, 02:39 PM

I kind of disagree with that. Nadal ONLY beats Federer at the French. The "rivalry" that they have only takes place once a year in Paris. Federer wins everywhere else. And Roddick will definitely not beat Federer. He disposed of him earlier this year at the Aussie open. In my opinion, Andy Roddick is the most overrated player in professional tennis. But i do agree with you about Canas and sometimes David Nalbandian, they do give him trouble.

naught33 · 06-10-07, 04:33 PM

well after today rafa owns 8-4 h2h on federer

6-1 on clay
2-1 on hc
0-1 on grass
0-1 carpet

Tommy · 06-10-07, 07:01 PM

Congrats to Nadal for winning his 3rd consecutive French. Nadal is the best in the world on dirt, no doubt about it. Federer is still #1 and the most consistent player in the world of Tennis right now and maybe ever.

Federer is #1 on Grass, #1 on HC and #2 on Clay.

Nadal is #1 on Clay. Maybe #2 in the others, I don't know.

HD to HD doesnt mean much if Federer is winning the other 3 GS a year and Nadal isn't even getting to any of the finals to meet him, with the exception of last years Wimbledon.

Nadal has won the last 3 French Open's and has a total of 3 GS victories, 2 of which were against Federer in the final.

Federer has won 10 GS, 4 on Grass and 6 on HC in the last 4 years, which 1 was against Nadal in the final.

Nadal has a long way to go yet, as does Federer. Nadal can win the next 10 French Open's, but if Fed is still dominating the other 3, Nadal will never eclipse Federer or take #1.

Tennis is about consistency and dominance. Killing clay and beating the best in HD to HD isn't the definition of that.

Alot of people say that Federer will never be the best of all-time if he cannot win the French, even though only 1 man has stopped him the last 2 years of doing just that and has absolutely dominated all other surfaces in the last 4 years.

Nadal is on a huge run on clay, but that's where it ends, right now at least.

How can anyone compare these 2 players and say who the best is when one is just short on one surface and dominating the rest and the other is dominating that one.

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soxaliscious SCI Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 201	Thanks, Buckery. Yea Ivanovic played her tough for the first two games but it was over after that. I like both of those players so I was happy either way. Can't wait til Wimbledon!!!!!!! __________________ Sox, take your sorry 13 year old ass and go play in heavy traffic and take your friends with you OK!!!! -The one and only, QuickNick
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soxaliscious SCI Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 201	Nadal is great on clay but unfortunately for him there is only one major played on it. I think he is a great player but in my eyes Federer is still better because he domintates year around. Nadal does not make the finals of any other major. Nadal is the undisputed king of clay but that is about it. __________________ Sox, take your sorry 13 year old ass and go play in heavy traffic and take your friends with you OK!!!! -The one and only, QuickNick
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naught33 SCI Forum Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scarsdale, NY Posts: 13,666	agreed...but rafa did make finals at wimbledon last yr, which is supposedly his worst surface and he barely plays on it...the difference between the two is federer will only lose to maybe 4-5 players on the tour if that...nadal, canas, bandy give him trouble...and maybe roddick or someone else can beat him here and there...nadal is more likely to lose to other players more often but he can beat fed in the big h2h meetings.. __________________ -naught33 "You miss 100% of all the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky "No one, and I mean no one, comes into our house and pushes us around"-coach from the movie Rudy
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soxaliscious SCI Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 201	I kind of disagree with that. Nadal ONLY beats Federer at the French. The "rivalry" that they have only takes place once a year in Paris. Federer wins everywhere else. And Roddick will definitely not beat Federer. He disposed of him earlier this year at the Aussie open. In my opinion, Andy Roddick is the most overrated player in professional tennis. But i do agree with you about Canas and sometimes David Nalbandian, they do give him trouble. __________________ Sox, take your sorry 13 year old ass and go play in heavy traffic and take your friends with you OK!!!! -The one and only, QuickNick
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Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	Congrats to Nadal for winning his 3rd consecutive French. Nadal is the best in the world on dirt, no doubt about it. Federer is still #1 and the most consistent player in the world of Tennis right now and maybe ever. Federer is #1 on Grass, #1 on HC and #2 on Clay. Nadal is #1 on Clay. Maybe #2 in the others, I don't know. HD to HD doesnt mean much if Federer is winning the other 3 GS a year and Nadal isn't even getting to any of the finals to meet him, with the exception of last years Wimbledon. Nadal has won the last 3 French Open's and has a total of 3 GS victories, 2 of which were against Federer in the final. Federer has won 10 GS, 4 on Grass and 6 on HC in the last 4 years, which 1 was against Nadal in the final. Nadal has a long way to go yet, as does Federer. Nadal can win the next 10 French Open's, but if Fed is still dominating the other 3, Nadal will never eclipse Federer or take #1. Tennis is about consistency and dominance. Killing clay and beating the best in HD to HD isn't the definition of that. Alot of people say that Federer will never be the best of all-time if he cannot win the French, even though only 1 man has stopped him the last 2 years of doing just that and has absolutely dominated all other surfaces in the last 4 years. Nadal is on a huge run on clay, but that's where it ends, right now at least. How can anyone compare these 2 players and say who the best is when one is just short on one surface and dominating the rest and the other is dominating that one.
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