ATP doubles rule change

Hope 1 · 07-09-05, 10:11 PM

insane rule change by the ATP tour; will be a go for the fall season, not sure exactly when in starts. Nutty if you ask me, almost like round robin tennis at your local club. makes doubles wagering, UNwagereable, is that a word? hehe......;

Doubles Jeopardy: ATP Announces Plan To Shorten Doubles Sets

By Tennis Week
07/01/2005

The ATP announced a new scoring system that will shrink doubles sets. Doubles matches at many fall tournaments will feature no-ad games and sets played to five games rather than six, with a tie-break at 4-4, the ATP announced today.

Possible set scores will be 5-0, 5-1, 5-2, 5-3 and 5-4. While the ATP is selling the new scoring system as "enhancements to doubles designed to appeal to fans and better showcase the tandem game", some players aren't buying it.

Todd Woodbridge, who owns the Open Era record for most doubles titles with 83, suggested the ATP's decision devalues doubles by adopting a scoring system that is not approved by the International Tennis Federation.

"I'm very disappointed with our council, so much so that I think they all should resign because they've gone ahead and made changes without even asking what the rest of the tennis world thinks," Woodbridge said. "They've made a scoring system that doesn't even exist. It's not an approved system by the International Tennis Federation. They've gone and made a decision against what the players also wish. Even the top singles players are scratching their head at this decision. It's disappointing. Perhaps with that in mind I've also timed it pretty well."

Tommy · 07-09-05, 10:24 PM

Hey George Hows everything? "Hope" everything is all well with you and the family

Why would they change that Its stupid IMO

Hope 1 · 07-09-05, 11:37 PM

thks Tommy, all is well and hope things are ok with you. Satrting to get back in. Tryng to get a feel for things, very small units. Had Spadea today at -3 games. That first set was like a womens match, breaks evrywhere, holy mackeral. Some of these lines are nutty; Nadal -3000? LOL!! its a friggen finals?!!? do kinda like Vaidisova over Francesca on home soil, not sure why she's the dog there.......

hopefully i can tread water and get some confidence to post....US hard court series comin' up!!!!! RCA, and Andy owns that friggen place. Going to the Canadian Open, Aug 8!!!!!--look out Sharapova here i come

naught33 · 07-10-05, 12:55 AM

Wow what a horrible rule change, they are gonna catch a lot of heat for that. I can't see the players liking those new rules, unless you're a player playing in both singles and doubles and progressing through the singles in the tourneys, as itll cut down on the tennis you have to play...no ad games? jesus yeah no more doubles betting IMO, glad to see you back here, hope things are good

Tommy · 07-10-05, 03:20 AM

Yup, Cant wait for the Hard court season

I am gonna get back into it when they hit the Hardcourts I think

Im glad your gettin back in

You are the man and I look forward to whatever you like, you know that George. I am going to have some sort of US Open contest for sure. I hope to see a good turnout for that. Give away free cash

Have Fun at the Canadian open brother

Hope 1 · 07-10-05, 07:46 AM

thks Tommy. Vaidisova steamrolled Francesca, hehe. NEVER faced break point vs Vinci yesterday and faced break point 3 times in this match, two of those in one game. What a serve she has, nutty. Yeah Tommy, gogin to the Sat and Sun qualifying rounds--want to see some of these 'unknowns', in qualies up front, will see the big gals for sure on the Wed of that week, may try to get out another day on that week.

naught, yep nuts--no ad games? hilarious--what is this a school yard pick up game?

here's Lleyton boys........

Which was your biggest mischief when a child ?
I was practising hitting golf balls on my front lawn and accidentally hit and smashed my neighbour’s window.

i think Lleyton may be a few french fries short of a happy meal

Tommy · 07-10-05, 07:58 AM

Yeah George, Vaidisova is no joke. Should be anytime now before she is in the top 10.

Accidently smashed my neighbors window while hitting golf balls on my fron lawn LMAO Lleyton, what did you expect the golf balls to go straight up?

Hope 1 · 07-10-05, 08:13 AM

LOL!!!!!

early entry filed for Toronto. Absolutely incredible firled, only Lindsey and Serena missing here;

1. Maria Sharapova No. 2/Russia
2. Amelie Mauresmo No. 3/France
3. Svetlana Kuznetsova No. 4/Russia
4. Serena Williams No. 6/United States
5. Justine Henin-Hardenne No. 7/Belgium
6. Venus Williams No. 8/United States
7. Nadia Petrova No. 9/Russia
8. Anastasia Myskina No. 10/Russia
9. Alicia Molik No. 11/Australia
10. Mary Pierce No. 13/France
11. Kim Clijsters No. 14/Belgium
12. Vera Zvonareva No. 15/Russia
13. Elena Likhovtseva No. 16/Russia
14. Elena Bovina No. 17/Russia
15. Nathalie Dechy No. 18/France
16. Jelena Jankovic No. 19/Serbia
17. Ana Ivanovic No. 20/Serbia
18. Tatiana Golovin No. 22/France
19. Francesca Schiavone No. 23/ Italy
20. Shinobu Asagoe No. 25/Japan
21. Dinara Safina No. 27/Russia
22. Nicole Vaidisova No. 28/Czech Republic
23. Marion Bartoli No. 29/France
24. Chanda Rubin No. 29/USA
25. Gisela Dulko No. 30/Argentina
26. Ai Sugiyama No. 32/Japan
27. Anabel Medina Garrigues No. 33/Spain
28. Anna Chakvetadze No. 34/Russia
29. Evgenia Linetskaya No. 35/Russia
30. Anna-Lena Groenefeld No. 36/Germany
31. Magdelena Maleeva No. 37/Bulgaria
32. Virginie Razzano No. 38/France
33. Nuria Llagostera Vives No. 39/Spain
34. Kveta Peschke No. 41/Czech Republic
35. Na Li No. 42/China
36. Fabiola Zuluaga No. 46/Colombia
37. Shuai Peng No. 47/China
38. Sesil Karatantcheva No. 48/Bulgaria
39. Marta Domachowska No. 49/Poland

players i want to see;
S Karatantcheva
N Li, S Peng
N Vaidisova
A Ivanovic

have to see their games, will report. Later

Tommy · 07-10-05, 08:22 AM

Thanks George,

Cant wait to hear what you have to say about these players

Hope 1 · 07-10-05, 09:49 AM

thks for the avatar Tommy!!!

HE"S THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

actually the more i think about this rule change the more one has to like HUGE dogs when this is implemented in Oct or so;

Doubles matches yield FEW breaks of serves, often decided by a few precious points. With no ad games and a tie-break at 4-4, it becomes 'almost' a crap shoot. NO way ANY doubles team (includign the Bryan brothers) should be a -700 to -1000. The comeback will be a crazy number. Books may not adjust these lines once the rules' change comes to effect; i 'think' huge dogs may have some value, will be interesting to see; lay say small coin on 3 huge dogs, onyl one has to come thru, with these changes you got a shot.

thoughts?

Tommy · 07-10-05, 09:56 AM

SHHHHHHHHHHHHH Dont Let it out George

Yeah the dogs will definetely be the plays for doubles matches. Hell maybe even 5 Dimes will stop the doubles matches, but I doubt it

I dont play much doubles anyway but might now since this change which def favors the dog

Tommy · 07-10-05, 09:59 AM

No Prob about the avatar I am not used to seeing "Hope 1" without an avatar of something to do with Tennis. Hewitt is the man, but his girlfriend is the woman too

Damn she is a fox

07-09-05, 10:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
Hope 1 SCI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 337	ATP doubles rule change insane rule change by the ATP tour; will be a go for the fall season, not sure exactly when in starts. Nutty if you ask me, almost like round robin tennis at your local club. makes doubles wagering, UNwagereable, is that a word? hehe......; Doubles Jeopardy: ATP Announces Plan To Shorten Doubles Sets By Tennis Week 07/01/2005 The ATP announced a new scoring system that will shrink doubles sets. Doubles matches at many fall tournaments will feature no-ad games and sets played to five games rather than six, with a tie-break at 4-4, the ATP announced today. Possible set scores will be 5-0, 5-1, 5-2, 5-3 and 5-4. While the ATP is selling the new scoring system as "enhancements to doubles designed to appeal to fans and better showcase the tandem game", some players aren't buying it. Todd Woodbridge, who owns the Open Era record for most doubles titles with 83, suggested the ATP's decision devalues doubles by adopting a scoring system that is not approved by the International Tennis Federation. "I'm very disappointed with our council, so much so that I think they all should resign because they've gone ahead and made changes without even asking what the rest of the tennis world thinks," Woodbridge said. "They've made a scoring system that doesn't even exist. It's not an approved system by the International Tennis Federation. They've gone and made a decision against what the players also wish. Even the top singles players are scratching their head at this decision. It's disappointing. Perhaps with that in mind I've also timed it pretty well."
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07-09-05, 10:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	Hey George Hows everything? "Hope" everything is all well with you and the family Why would they change that Its stupid IMO
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07-09-05, 11:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
Hope 1 SCI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 337	thks Tommy, all is well and hope things are ok with you. Satrting to get back in. Tryng to get a feel for things, very small units. Had Spadea today at -3 games. That first set was like a womens match, breaks evrywhere, holy mackeral. Some of these lines are nutty; Nadal -3000? LOL!! its a friggen finals?!!? do kinda like Vaidisova over Francesca on home soil, not sure why she's the dog there....... hopefully i can tread water and get some confidence to post....US hard court series comin' up!!!!! RCA, and Andy owns that friggen place. Going to the Canadian Open, Aug 8!!!!!--look out Sharapova here i come
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naught33 SCI Forum Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scarsdale, NY Posts: 13,666	Wow what a horrible rule change, they are gonna catch a lot of heat for that. I can't see the players liking those new rules, unless you're a player playing in both singles and doubles and progressing through the singles in the tourneys, as itll cut down on the tennis you have to play...no ad games? jesus yeah no more doubles betting IMO, glad to see you back here, hope things are good __________________ -naught33 "You miss 100% of all the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky "No one, and I mean no one, comes into our house and pushes us around"-coach from the movie Rudy
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07-10-05, 03:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	Yup, Cant wait for the Hard court season I am gonna get back into it when they hit the Hardcourts I think Im glad your gettin back in You are the man and I look forward to whatever you like, you know that George. I am going to have some sort of US Open contest for sure. I hope to see a good turnout for that. Give away free cash Have Fun at the Canadian open brother
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07-10-05, 07:46 AM	#6 (permalink)
Hope 1 SCI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 337	thks Tommy. Vaidisova steamrolled Francesca, hehe. NEVER faced break point vs Vinci yesterday and faced break point 3 times in this match, two of those in one game. What a serve she has, nutty. Yeah Tommy, gogin to the Sat and Sun qualifying rounds--want to see some of these 'unknowns', in qualies up front, will see the big gals for sure on the Wed of that week, may try to get out another day on that week. naught, yep nuts--no ad games? hilarious--what is this a school yard pick up game? here's Lleyton boys........ Which was your biggest mischief when a child ? I was practising hitting golf balls on my front lawn and accidentally hit and smashed my neighbour’s window. i think Lleyton may be a few french fries short of a happy meal
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Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	Yeah George, Vaidisova is no joke. Should be anytime now before she is in the top 10. Accidently smashed my neighbors window while hitting golf balls on my fron lawn LMAO Lleyton, what did you expect the golf balls to go straight up?
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07-10-05, 08:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
Hope 1 SCI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 337	LOL!!!!! early entry filed for Toronto. Absolutely incredible firled, only Lindsey and Serena missing here; 1. Maria Sharapova No. 2/Russia 2. Amelie Mauresmo No. 3/France 3. Svetlana Kuznetsova No. 4/Russia 4. Serena Williams No. 6/United States 5. Justine Henin-Hardenne No. 7/Belgium 6. Venus Williams No. 8/United States 7. Nadia Petrova No. 9/Russia 8. Anastasia Myskina No. 10/Russia 9. Alicia Molik No. 11/Australia 10. Mary Pierce No. 13/France 11. Kim Clijsters No. 14/Belgium 12. Vera Zvonareva No. 15/Russia 13. Elena Likhovtseva No. 16/Russia 14. Elena Bovina No. 17/Russia 15. Nathalie Dechy No. 18/France 16. Jelena Jankovic No. 19/Serbia 17. Ana Ivanovic No. 20/Serbia 18. Tatiana Golovin No. 22/France 19. Francesca Schiavone No. 23/ Italy 20. Shinobu Asagoe No. 25/Japan 21. Dinara Safina No. 27/Russia 22. Nicole Vaidisova No. 28/Czech Republic 23. Marion Bartoli No. 29/France 24. Chanda Rubin No. 29/USA 25. Gisela Dulko No. 30/Argentina 26. Ai Sugiyama No. 32/Japan 27. Anabel Medina Garrigues No. 33/Spain 28. Anna Chakvetadze No. 34/Russia 29. Evgenia Linetskaya No. 35/Russia 30. Anna-Lena Groenefeld No. 36/Germany 31. Magdelena Maleeva No. 37/Bulgaria 32. Virginie Razzano No. 38/France 33. Nuria Llagostera Vives No. 39/Spain 34. Kveta Peschke No. 41/Czech Republic 35. Na Li No. 42/China 36. Fabiola Zuluaga No. 46/Colombia 37. Shuai Peng No. 47/China 38. Sesil Karatantcheva No. 48/Bulgaria 39. Marta Domachowska No. 49/Poland players i want to see; S Karatantcheva N Li, S Peng N Vaidisova A Ivanovic have to see their games, will report. Later
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Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	Thanks George, Cant wait to hear what you have to say about these players
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Hope 1 SCI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 337	thks for the avatar Tommy!!! HE"S THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! actually the more i think about this rule change the more one has to like HUGE dogs when this is implemented in Oct or so; Doubles matches yield FEW breaks of serves, often decided by a few precious points. With no ad games and a tie-break at 4-4, it becomes 'almost' a crap shoot. NO way ANY doubles team (includign the Bryan brothers) should be a -700 to -1000. The comeback will be a crazy number. Books may not adjust these lines once the rules' change comes to effect; i 'think' huge dogs may have some value, will be interesting to see; lay say small coin on 3 huge dogs, onyl one has to come thru, with these changes you got a shot. thoughts?
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Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	SHHHHHHHHHHHHH Dont Let it out George Yeah the dogs will definetely be the plays for doubles matches. Hell maybe even 5 Dimes will stop the doubles matches, but I doubt it I dont play much doubles anyway but might now since this change which def favors the dog
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Tommy Now go get your shinebox Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sportscapper Island Posts: 15,068	No Prob about the avatar I am not used to seeing "Hope 1" without an avatar of something to do with Tennis. Hewitt is the man, but his girlfriend is the woman too Damn she is a fox
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